"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"Romance" as part of your (LTR) game?

RZA26

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Everyone says "be confident...women love a confident guy, an alpha male". I wont argue with that as obviously its a turn on for most chicks.

However, I think you can only go so far with it, if youre not naturally confident in any situation. In many situations, I am confident and wont mind shwing it (knowing its attractive to chicks)....

however, I dont feel or have any plans of acting confident in situations where I'm not confident (when dealing with a girl I consider a potential g/f not a fling). For example, I am somewhat of a hypochondriac having had some bad health issues in the past. Being confident would mean hiding that/pretending it doesnt bother me, at all. Not really what I'd want to do in an LTR....

How about the whole romance/gentleman thing, though? Does anyone use this as part of their LTR-game (in combination with still being a man, not a wussy of course...)?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Buddy you're a bit mixed up.

RZA26 said:
however, I dont feel or have any plans of acting confident in situations where I'm not confident (when dealing with a girl I consider a potential g/f not a fling).
Being romantic doesn't mean being a wussy, or not confident, or a b!tch.

For example, I am somewhat of a hypochondriac having had some bad health issues in the past. Being confident would mean hiding that/pretending it doesnt bother me, at all. Not really what I'd want to do in an LTR....
Want someone to talk to about your issues? Find a doctor or a therapist. You want to keep your woman? You keep these things from her. It's just how the game works.
 

zekko

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Want someone to talk to about your issues? Find a doctor or a therapist. You want to keep your woman? You keep these things from her. It's just how the game works.
I don't think you necessarily have to keep that stuff from her, but you definitely don't want to whine to her about it. Generally speaking, it's always best to portray yourself to be as strong as you can.

As for romance, I have no doubt that guys can incorporate romance into a strong LTR game, or even a strong short term game. However, I have to admit I haven't gone this route for a very long time, and I don't seem to be any worse off for it. In fact, I seem to be doing better. A lot of romance is just stuff that Hallmark sells to you to keep themselves in business.
 
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