"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Roissy vs Heartiste

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I remember Roissy, had a post about how the Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher marriage and how it would fail. I thought for sure it he would of written something about it since their current woes validated his prediction.

And add the Roissy.wordpress.com being taken down vs heartiste.wordpress.com, which I found weird, that usually happens when wordpress bans a blog.

Does anyone here (Rollo?) know roissy, A small part of me thinks that there is something fishy going on there.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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FLGuy said:
I remember Roissy, had a post about how the Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher marriage and how it would fail. I thought for sure it he would of written something about it since their current woes validated his prediction.
He predicted that a celebrity marriage would end in divorce?
Wow, the guy must be a psychic.
:rolleyes:
 

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Roissy is a master both with the word and the subject...not sure who Heartiste is but I have stopped reading as the quality has gone.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Roissy/heartiste seems like he really used to enjoy himself and his life a few years ago. Now he just sounds kind of like an old curmudgeon, upset about loose women and immigrants.
 

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Roissy's writing was probably the best I've ever read. He may be Heartiste but a different person is writing the new stuff....
 

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Dear Window,
"Roissy's writing was probably the best I've ever read. He may be Heartiste but a different person is writing the new stuff".......I agree,Roissy at his best is inspired....just as the British could identify a Morse code operator in the last War by his or her touch,surely we can identify articles on Heartiste as being sometimes the genuine article but many times the work of an understudy..
 

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"Nearly two years ago, the original Chateau host predicted that Ashton Kutcher was cheating on his cougar love, Demi:" ???

original host?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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samspade said:
Perhaps it seems like the writing has gone downhill because after his first couple of revelatory years, there are only so many other ways he can drive home the same points. His initial couple of years were genius. Lately it's been a lot of political nonsense, complaining about feminism (which I understand but it's like preaching to the choir for me), articles about how "science keeps proving him right," etc. Maybe I already agree with him enough that it's laborious to read because I'm not a recovering AFC. Still, the blog has done a huge service for the community and tells a lot of unpleasant truths, which I salute.
You can pretty much say the same thing about the early years of sosuave, guys like Anti-Dump, Pook & Senor Fingers were giants in terms of their insight. Even Pook himself started out as an inspiring DJ who later on gone deeper into a more negative tone with his assessment of the matriarchy.

When it comes to understanding women, the more knoweldge you seek about them the more you are going to find out that you are not going to like.

Roissy had a good quote: "If love is a little white lie, then I don't want to know the truth"

On somethings it may be good to stay in the dark, taking the red pill won't bring you happiness but reality.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Heartiste is Roissy, you'll just have to trust me on that.

And he did do a follow up on the Kutcher / Moore breakup:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/another-cougar-bites-the-dust/
But who is Roissy?

In one of his old Roissy posts ( I believe either early 2011 or 2010) he actually implied there were different writers and the people commenting asked him about it and he never answered them.

In several other posts he did the same thing by implying the writer has indeed changed.
 

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One of the inherent dangers of becoming the go-to guy on Game or anything that rubs the feminine defined reality the wrong way is that you paint a pretty big target on yourself. Literally and figuratively.

I'm not a proponent of Roissy's politics, but I definitively co-sign with his perspective on intergender relations. Now, which of these stances earns him the most vitriol? His writings about gender; that's how important it is to defend the feminine imperative for the masses of online feminists and manginas. They can ignore his political screeds as just some right-wing crank, but they become so irate with his perspective intergender dynamics that they seek to do him personal and professional harm.

If you've noticed a change in Roissy's writing style, it's primarily due to having had to deal with 'real life' threats intended to destroy him personally to the point he's had to change his online monicker (Heartiste). You are only as anonymous online as your opinions make you nondescript. Piss off the wrong aspergers troll or Jezebel fanatic and they will hunt you down digitally. I'm becoming more aware of this as my own blog becomes more popular. Guy's writing in the manosphere put their lives and reputations at risk to do so.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
One of the inherent dangers of becoming the go-to guy on Game or anything that rubs the feminine defined reality the wrong way is that you paint a pretty big target on yourself. Literally and figuratively.

I'm not a proponent of Roissy's politics, but I definitively co-sign with his perspective on intergender relations. Now, which of these stances earns him the most vitriol? His writings about gender; that's how important it is to defend the feminine imperative for the masses of online feminists and manginas. They can ignore his political screeds as just some right-wing crank, but they become so irate with his perspective intergender dynamics that they seek to do him personal and professional harm.

If you've noticed a change in Roissy's writing style, it's primarily due to having had to deal with 'real life' threats intended to destroy him personally to the point he's had to change his online monicker (Heartiste). You are only as anonymous online as your opinions make you nondescript. Piss off the wrong aspergers troll or Jezebel fanatic and they will hunt you down digitally. I'm becoming more aware of this as my own blog becomes more popular. Guy's writing in the manosphere put their lives and reputations at risk to do so.
I see this also as a testament to how important and relevant the message is. If it weren't, no one would care.
 

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ArcBound said:
But who is Roissy?

In one of his old Roissy posts ( I believe either early 2011 or 2010) he actually implied there were different writers and the people commenting asked him about it and he never answered them.

In several other posts he did the same thing by implying the writer has indeed changed.
I think there was a time where he literally went undercover - and there were some guest writers - and most of them were crap. The old Roissy style seems to be back now though, so maybe he is again doing all the writing.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Zunder said:
I think there was a time where he literally went undercover - and there were some guest writers - and most of them were crap. The old Roissy style seems to be back now though, so maybe he is again doing all the writing.
That actually makes the most sense. He has a style that is very hard to imitate. I would have a hard time believing that a whole crew of writers could write in that style, along with his witty rejoinders in the comments section.

I guess it's impossible to know for sure, unless you know him personally. But the main thing is that the quality is back and he seems to still be having fun with it.
 

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Same guy, but I think he writes now mostly for the attention, rather than because he's inspired, if you know what I mean. About a year ago I sat down for a couple of days and read every single one of his posts.
 

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FLGuy said:
I remember Roissy, had a post about how the Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher marriage and how it would fail. I thought for sure it he would of written something about it since their current woes validated his prediction.

And add the Roissy.wordpress.com being taken down vs heartiste.wordpress.com, which I found weird, that usually happens when wordpress bans a blog.

Does anyone here (Rollo?) know roissy, A small part of me thinks that there is something fishy going on there.
I wrote a whole thread about this:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=189567

As for who actually writes the blog, it's several people. A couple of entries make reference to there having been other writers. Whether it gets handed down to new people over years, or if it's an amalgam of different people making submissions I don't know. Also, wordpress didn't do anything to the blog, whoever owns it just changed the name. If you replace roissy with heartiste in all the old url's, you'll get the original article.
 

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i recently subscribed to the heartsite dudes blog. rollos is 5x better.

he doesnt' so much talk about game as much as he spots why he thinks men are better than women. that and spams the **** out of your RSS feed
 

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Only problem with Tomasis's is I think the guy is married. That's like asking a prisoner the best way to avoid being caught ;)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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