"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Rock Chick Game

Syren

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No question about it rock chicks are different game all together, something I've been trying out in my home town a little. I've found DHV stories don't work nearly as well, they prefer the more spur of the moment fun stuff (as a general rule of thmb) and playfights are much more common.

My opener is usually about some cool jewlrey and if they were at the Download festival (A1), if yes, did they see the KoRn set, because Davis was taken ill, but there was a dude in a bunny suit jumping around who sounded like him (A2). Good knowledge of Music helps, strong body languge and playful pushing, also if you can dance to ROCK music, thats huge. You get some serious hotties at rock clubs, and usually you're allowed to go topless as a guy... Two visual DHV's.

From the music I tend to build rapport about bands that have meant something to me, and qualify them on what bands are guilty pleasures (I start by admitting I'm a Linkin Park fan, then putting my fists up queensbury rules style.) (A3 and comfort transition)

I used this stuff a couple of times at the download festival on random strangers, and used the whole festival as calibration experience. It's helped, last night I was out and a girl I've been talking to a few time's has her friend come over and say she likes me. The girl is a (rock chick 8), super funky red hair in all directions and an almost Japanese dress sense, its pretty cool. I said "bless", smiled at her friend and said hi to HB8 and then left after giving her a quick hug. (Classic Harlequin takeaway).

These are all very early experience notes, but the game with these girls does seem to be a little different because
1) Much less ***** sheild
2) Very different culture/values

Hope this helps, I'm refine my findings and post more on it in time...:up:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Big Eee Zee

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i dont really like em, little to no long term value.

My g/f was attempting to be one when we met, but i guided her away from it. Now she will prolly end up being a succesful entrepenur.

Woo, I added one more functional member to society. GO ME!
 

Syren

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Everyone has their faults, but its the look more than the pesonal success attributes. I don't intend to stay with a rock chick for very long...
 

Boschy

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I have a soft spot for rock chicks. I used to play drums in garage bands, plus I like everything from Dire Straits to Deicide (death metal). So building rapport is farking easy. Pity that most have small attention spans, suffer from terminal apathy, or smoke too much weed. I still dream of finding my perfect rock chick, though...
 

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They're more open, fo sho, I used to be in that crowd.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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