"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Rock bottom + Big shovel = Where I am. *Must Read*

S.U.R.F.

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I think I'm going to die alone. I've been trying to get girls for the past four years, and I have recently discovered this website. In these four years, I have never managed to hold a girls hand, nor have I ever had the chance to kiss one.

Before I continue, I'd like to add that I'm not clinically depressed.

I'm average looking, my personality is dreadful, and that's being generous. I'm rude, ****y, arrogant, sarcastic, and people just hate that. People have called me a jerk, albeit one with low self esteem. Well, all you PUA's say omg surf, your a jerk, you would be getting so much ass. Yeah ok, the only ass I get is when I miss with toilet paper.

For every other guy out there, hitting rock bottom gives them 2 choices. Continue trying to be a PUA, or just quit all together. I'm no quitter, but I just don't see the fkn point of doing this anymore. Am I going to be an emotional slave to women... begging for a drop of their attention like someone stranded on the desert, begging for a drop of water? No, sadly, I refuse to see myself down that path.

Some jerkoff PUA wanna be might tell me, ohh surf, if you think you don't get laid, you wont. My response : **** YOU.
I've known people who think they are the world, and they get ****. Absolute ****tt.

Each of us were born into this world, butt naked, screaming, blinded. Each of us were born into this world, alone ( except twinz ). That's how I expect my life to be from now on. Anyone who comes into my life in the future, thanks for being there, but I don't need no body, cuz I was born alone. Maybe then... I wouldn't pushed away all those people who cared, loved, and forgave me over and over again for the **** I've pulled.

None the less, all of that happened. Now I'm alone again. But I will not be desperate, on the road ahead. There will be no booze to pass the lonely nights, nor drugs, no smokes, no god damn blow up dolls or crazy asian robot maids. I don't plan to live in a cave, with my computer. I have abandoned hope, but I only did so so I could live my life. I have a dream that I want to pursue...something difficult, but I will achieve it.

From now on, I will walk with an aura of confidence, with my head held high. I know I'm lonely, god damn it I'm lonely and proud of it!!! And if anyone makes fun of my disgusting ass, why...that would make you so much uglier then me. In the end, the human experience leaves you with nothing, but these precious years. I do not plan on using them uselessly chasing tail, begging for their attention like they are some kind of deity. I've choosen to live, not to live a life of death and nothing. I'll make myself into someone I can be happy and proud to be, and follow my dreams.

Thanks for reading! Just my rant
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Snow Plowman

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You are sort of in the right river now you just need to flow with the current...

If you truly don't care, then you'll be willing to let go and stop TRYING to create results.

Start going out just to be social an drop the ego, it's all about having fun no need to put up some facade. Essentially you want to meet the people who meet your standards and screen out the ones who don't.

It's obvious you have a life so LIVE IT...

When you see women just give them the chance to meet you an if they seem cool enough then just #close of socializing purposes. Maybe you invite her an her friend's to show them something in your life, or maybe you have her show you certain aspects of her life...All for the sake of socializing. If your just a normal sexual being who flirts then women will start trying to get with you without you actually trying to focus on meeting women.

For example...I like food...

Say I'm in a bookstore, see 5 women who seem interesting so I present the opportunity for them to meet me, say 3 of them meet my standards so I #close telling them I usually go out to eat with some friends every so often.

Week later I text them that I'm going to try this new restaurant with some friend's and she should come along with her girl friends. Then she texts back yes, no or doesn't respond. Say only 2 is coming out. I can then go out with my boy who was coming along anyway and these 2 girls.

When we get there one of the girls brought 1 of her girlfriends. So now it's 3 girls and 2 guys, you didn't put in any effort besides setting up things you were already going to do. From there you let it unfold.

AND THAT IS JUST ONE DAY...

Imagine going in while another group is waiting too an you hit it off well. So now its your group of 5 and a group you just met of 3 girls. That is 8 people of 6 girls and 2 guys...What if you boy had a place? Well bring back the 6 girls to your friend's place for a little after party to complement the fun.

You get my drift, there is no need to just go out cold approaching over and over. That is only good to change your character an learn social dynamics. It will get you laid BUT there are far more less effort less ways of getting laid. Cold approaching is just a tool to do what I mentioned above. Imagine if you had the skill to #close all 5 girls?

It's all about possibilities and taking things to the next level...

To quit is like saying you refuse to interact with women ever again in life.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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S.U.R.F.

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Furyguy said:
Does your plan include changing that dreadful personality of yours?

If it doesn't, maybe you should think about it.
its really quite difficult, as when people dont respond positively to it, i get depressed and then angry, thus, giving me dreadful personality itis. Its hard to cure, but Its the new year, and frankly, yes i am willing to try anything.
 
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