"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I don't know if any of you guys know this about me, but I'm a fairly smart guy, and considered one of the smartest guys in school. It's not always a good thing though. The guys resent me, and I can't help the fact that I'm smart. THere's really nothing for them to mess with me about except my ethnicity which is complete bull****. Insecure redneck *******s. This one guy said, "We're all getting this blue card, while Jokerlsk is getting his green card." and I said, "Hey buddy, at least I'm not a redneck like you." and he said, "You're a stupid chink." and I said, "At least I don't sleep with my sister." Anyways, life goes on, but this affects me with girls too. People just can't stand the fact that I'm smart. Girls get pissed off because of it too, or they try to take advantage of me, and I'm not an afc chump, so i tell them to screw off. It just irks me that when people can't find something wrong with me they use my ethnicity as a crutch.
I've realized that being smart has effected my game. I'm not a nerd, and I'm relatively popular, but that's with the guys only. I don't really have a social group of "girl" friends. I'm considered one of the funniest guys in my class, but I give off a negative vibe to girls and I don't know how to resolve this. I don't want to change myself just to appease others because that's not how I was brought up. I'm proud of who I am, I just get sick of getting **** from people that don't take the time of day to get to know me. I have a lot of guys that look up to me because they think I'm more confident than them, but I just can't seem to pull it off sometimes. I have to fake it a good bit of the times, and some people see through it. I'm self conscious about a lot of things including my weight because i was chunky when i was younger, even though i'm a perfect weight for my height. And i just can't relate to anybody. I don't know anyone else who's multiracial. It's like I'll never fully belong even though I try. I have friends, but i can't help but feel out of place.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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No bro. I'm not anything like Caped. I just had a ****ty day.
 

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Jokerlsk said:
I don't know if any of you guys know this about me, but I'm a fairly smart guy, and considered one of the smartest guys in school. It's not always a good thing though. The guys resent me, and I can't help the fact that I'm smart.
Like how do they resent you?

"We're all getting this blue card, while Jokerlsk is getting his green card." and I said, "Hey buddy, at least I'm not a redneck like you." and he said, "You're a stupid chink." and I said, "At least I don't sleep with my sister."
You know stuff. You don't sound smart to me. Knowledge != smart. You have knowledge.

There are many types of smart:
1. Physical. Like an athlete. Not a jock, an acrobat or a martial artist.
2. Verbal smarts. Someone witty that can twist words and meanings and can argue you into the ground.
3. Creative smarts. Someone who can take a bunch of junk and put it together into whatever you need.

Stuff like that.

You have knowledge, and discipline in order to gain such knowledge. But as far as smarts go, you don't have it yet judging by your response to the redneck.

Anyways, life goes on, but this affects me with girls too. People just can't stand the fact that I'm smart. Girls get pissed off because of it too, or they try to take advantage of me, and I'm not an afc chump, so i tell them to screw off.
No, they can't stand you because "you think you're smart and you act like you need to show it and show them they're not". What's the difference between you and the jock who thinks he's better than everyone because he plays football? Not much, you just have worse social skills with women.

I've realized that being smart has effected my game. I'm not a nerd, and I'm relatively popular, but that's with the guys only.
Now you're getting on my nerves. I get it. YOU THINK YOU'RE SMART.

I have friends, but i can't help but feel out of place.
You are out of place because you choose to be. You really think they're lower than you. Some are, most are not. Just because someone does not know pi to 8 digits does not make them stupid. There's different types of knowledge too and you need to accept that and accept those people. They're just like you to an extent, just in a different way.

Read "How to Win Friends and Influence People". It's pretty dead on. It will help you understand some things you're doing wrong and hopefully you will then choose to fix the problems.

Good luck buddy and don't give up.
 

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I don't think I'm smart, I know I'm smart. There's a complete difference. I am witty btw. When I said that **** to the redneck everyone in the entire class started laughing at him. I don't rub my grades in everyones face. People will ask me what I got, and I'll tell them.
They resent me because they say I'm only smart because I'm half chinese, or that I'll never make it in the real world because books only get you so far. When i said I was funny I meant witty. I know how to handle people, but the one thing i can't defend against is my ethnicity which is my only vulnerable area. I can't make fun of white guys because i'm half white and they're the majority. I don't think i'm better than everyone else either. you're way off on this one. I think people get annoyed at my morals. I don't try to be a player, I just try to be a good guy. Not the book definition of a "nice guy" afc, but just a good guy. I defend freshman when my friends pick on them, I'm kind to everyone unless someone pisses me off. I just don't get along with the slutty, preppy, b!tchy girls. I get along with the normal and smarter girls, but just not them. It's like a mental block, but I can't stand them. I hate the way they treat people, and I hate the way they act. I live in a wealthy area, and that's how a lot of the girls are.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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you live in a racist place. if you cant deal with it, then move to someplace less annoying.

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So complain and be under it the entire time... that's a good solution. You live in a ****ty place, so be a man and stop letting it affect you - move out in a couple years for college. If you can't get out of this place, then tell us what you are trying to achieve. Are you here just to moan and complain? It's good that this is a place for you to vent but we can't help you unless there's a point to this thread.
 

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I can't do anything about that, bro. I've lived here all my life, and i'm only 16... It's just BS because i don't even look that chinese. I don't have jet black, spiky straight hair, I'm not short, I have slant eyes I guess. It's noticeable, but they aren't as small as the average asian person. I'm 6ft 1, and 180 lbs.. I don't fit many of the asian stereotypes
 

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Jokerlsk said:
I don't think i'm better than everyone else either. you're way off on this one.
I went off by what I read. Its good you explain as much as possible. You'll get an answer from someone if you're clear.

I think people get annoyed at my morals. I don't try to be a player, I just try to be a good guy. Not the book definition of a "nice guy" afc, but just a good guy. I defend freshman when my friends pick on them, I'm kind to everyone unless someone pisses me off. I just don't get along with the slutty, preppy, b!tchy girls. I get along with the normal and smarter girls, but just not them. It's like a mental block, but I can't stand them. I hate the way they treat people, and I hate the way they act. I live in a wealthy area, and that's how a lot of the girls are.
Maybe its just the area man. Sounds to me like its more than just one issue. One suggestion I have for you is to keep your grades and your performance to yourself. If they ask, you passed the test and they don't need to know more. You're not interested in helping out douchebags like them.

See if that helps some.

I don't know what you can do about the racism. New style maybe?
 

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I'm content with my style. I dress nice. Polo and a pair of jeans, or in the summer, A t-shirt with shorts or sweat pants. I don't dress geeky or anything but i'm not into the whole "american eagle" and "abercrombie" **** they have nowadays.
 

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People are intimidated by you.

These 'rednecks' play on you with greencard jokes because they're scared if they don't keep you tamed, you'll just scheme on them. Either that, or it's their only way of humoring themselves.

Girls don't talk to you because they're intimidated by you as well. While they like to enjoy the simple things in life, your 'smarter than you' mentality gives off some vibe like they need to read webster's dictionary before talking to you.

And look, I'm not hating because I'll be the first to tell girls and guys alike that I'm smarter than all of them. But I still choose to vibe with them on an elementary level even if it means doing some stupid sh!t every once in awhile just to make them feel comfortable around me. No one likes someone who can't share experiences and do things they may not like once in awhile.

Friendship is like a partnership.. you lead people to do things you want most of the time.. yes that's good; but once in awhile it's good to sit back and do things others want to. Most likely these dudes are intimidated and aggravated cause you're trying to build your own path while ignoring whatever the f*ck they want to do.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Thank you. I'm remotely positive that you hit the nail on the head. I don't try to come off as intimidating, but I guess it's just the way I am. My dad was like that too, but he was more of the jock version. I don't know how I come off that way though. I look people in the eye when i tlak to them, I usually smile, but people say I lack emotion a lot of the times. I try not to let my emotions effect me, so that could be part of the reason; however, I follow the beat to my own drum, and I don't conform to the petty crap that most teenagers do. Most kids in my school drink, party, smoke, while I don't do any of that. I personally think it's stupid. You're right though. I need to show that I'm capable of having fun. That's my biggest problem with some people. They don't understand me until they get to know me. Some people assume I"m an ******* due to what I've said to some b!tches before.....
 

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Jokerlsk said:
Thank you. I'm remotely positive that you hit the nail on the head. I don't try to come off as intimidating, but I guess it's just the way I am. My dad was like that too, but he was more of the jock version. I don't know how I come off that way though. I look people in the eye when i tlak to them, I usually smile, but people say I lack emotion a lot of the times. I try not to let my emotions effect me, so that could be part of the reason; however, I follow the beat to my own drum, and I don't conform to the petty crap that most teenagers do. Most kids in my school drink, party, smoke, while I don't do any of that. I personally think it's stupid. You're right though. I need to show that I'm capable of having fun. That's my biggest problem with some people. They don't understand me until they get to know me. Some people assume I"m an ******* due to what I've said to some b!tches before.....
I think you answered your own question. Someone who can't have fun is lifeless. One of the most attractive traits of any man is the ability to have fun/make people have fun even in the sh!ttiest of situations.

Now that's not to say you need to be the clown of the group and laugh at everything anyone says. But how about being that guy who SHOWS everyone how to have fun?
 

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That's the thing. I need to find a median. With my guy friends I have that median. In middle school I was considered obnoxious by almost all the girls, but at least I was having fun with myself. A lot of girls who use to be my friends say that I've changed and become intimidating. I just don't want to become that clown again. I show glimpses of humor, but only when it's called for. Like when I called the redneck out in front of the class. This is going to sound really queer, but i saw that Twilight movie and I feel like that Edward fellow. That's just my personality. I just initmidate people, but I can be charming.
 

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One of the essential social skills is to be able to communicate reasonably well with people you don't like and at least somewhat get along with them socially. It seems that you're failing miserably in that area. It's alright though, you're still a kid. Plenty of time to learn.

It may help, if you're trying to be a good guy, to stop judging & hating people just because they're into things you're not or aren't quite up to your standards. It always amuses me when self-proclaimed good/nice guys unwittingly show how much hatred they have for other people.
 

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I'm very opinionated. It's just ironic because I'm a very eloquent speaker, and I want to major in law. I have no problem attempting to convey what i want to say. If I'm given something to study and analyze, I can talk about it, and defend it better than anyone I know, but things I can't study are what I fail at. I'm good at reading people, and talking casually, but I can't go into a deeper level than that. Girls sometimes ask me why I've never had a girlfriend, and I don't really know how to respond. I've had opportunities, but if I don't like that person, i don't like them. I'm a deeper thinker than what people give me credit for. A lot of people that don't know me tell me that I'm shallow, but that isn't the case at all. They just need to get an opportunity to get to know me.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If I can gather through your posts on a message board that you think too highly of yourself, then I bet people who know you in real life can too.

Just look at your choice of words. It's always "I'm better than everyone else, I'm just misunderstood. I'm too special and they must feel privileged to be around me. Why don't they want to get to know me? Waaaaaahhhh I don't belong here!". It's a wonderful combination of the two most disliked personality factors: arrogance and whiny-biatch. Having said that, you'd make a perfect stereotypical lawyer with such qualities.

You're 16. You have a lot to learn. Learn some humility first and you might just start making some friends and possibly get a girlfriend or three.

P.S: being an eloquent speaker doesn't mean that you can actually communicate well. The verbal part is only a small part of communication.
 

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Jokerisk,

Game isn't just about picking up chicks. While that's an aspect it's also about being to read peopl,e's intentions and udnerstand what they angling at and udenrstanding their motivations. Being positive and being humours and lively is how you can disarm a lot of the racist sentiment.

Those guys don't understand you and they don't understand your culture. It happens all throughout life. People make lots of stereotypes and you're going to have to learn that you can disarm them with charm and that's where game comes into play.

As far being smart there's always someone smarter and there are very few 16 year olds that have street smarts and experience that can help you get through life.
 

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Those racist ****s are losers bro.

I was the same way in high school, except I was in a diverse high school with no racist rednecks.

In any case, what kept me going was the thought that someday in the future I will OWN their asses as they come to me for their jobs and salary. And 6 years later it is already starting to come true. Maybe I am evil like that but knowing that I will own their ass in the future just makes me smirk when they say racist **** or put me down. I always get a kick out of people insulting people who will clearly be successful in the future because it's not like we're just going to forget. PAyback is oh so sweet, but you gotta use your smarts and make sure they never attribute it to you. MWAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!

lol but for reals man, roll with the punches.
 

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Try to relax around other people, try to relate to other people. And don`t say to much smart things to people.

People don`t like to hear how smart you are if they don`t ask. Buy this I mean that you don`t give advice unless people asks.

It is intimidating for most people when you are telling them things that are extreamely intelligent that they have never thought about, they feel stupid, and if they are not agread they see you as arrogant.

Just try to understand more how other people think.
 

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Jitterbug, I think I already said this before, but I do have a lot of friends. Definitely more than enough.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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