"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Whether it's exes or friends' exes in your broader social circle jumping from MLTR to MLTR, or the same female profiles periodically appearing online year to year, it really would seem that women aren't actually following through on their supposed obsession with "settling down".

What's that you say? Women's actions are at odds with what they say?!

Real groundbreaking stuff I know!

Whether they're conscious of it or not, I think a good number of women aren't sold on the marriage, mortgage and kids path to happiness. Oh they say it's what they want, and you'd better play along long enough to make her "settling down" cover story seem plausible (if only to herself). They are every bit the serial monogamists that we are, which is fine, I'm down with that, I'm just so fed up with their self-deception and the charades we have to play to feed their "good-girl who just hasn't found the right guy yet" narrative.

I should at least add that this is based on Western women, I'll concede that women in more traditional societies might be more sincere and consistent in their actions regarding this "settling down" business.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Wilko said:
Whether it's exes or friends' exes in your broader social circle jumping from MLTR to MLTR, or the same female profiles periodically appearing online year to year, it really would seem that women aren't actually following through on their supposed obsession with "settling down".

What's that you say? Women's actions are at odds with what they say?!

Real groundbreaking stuff I know!

Whether they're conscious of it or not, I think a good number of women aren't sold on the marriage, mortgage and kids path to happiness. Oh they say it's what they want, and you'd better play along long enough to make her "settling down" cover story seem plausible (if only to herself). They are every bit the serial monogamists that we are, which is fine, I'm down with that, I'm just so fed up with their self-deception and the charades we have to play to feed their "good-girl who just hasn't found the right guy yet" narrative.

I should at least add that this is based on Western women, I'll concede that women in more traditional societies might be more sincere and consistent in their actions regarding this "settling down" business.
What do you mean by "MLTR?" -- mature long term relationship?????

Also what do you mean by 'repeat business'?

I think a lot of women don't want to settle down nearly as they once did -- in a lot of ways it was because at one time, having babies and a husband was a sign of 'making it' as a female. The thing to aspire towards in being a 'successful woman'.

With feminism and the freedom of women, all of that has changed. A woman can find her worth in a number of ways, including through her own development of career.

This forces women to not want to settle down. Or at least until later.

Of course, some women pretend they want to settle down, or like my ex-girlfriend, wanted to ride the c0ck-carousel until finding a nice beta to latch onto (luckily I got dumped or I may have walked into being that naive idiot)...and god forbid what that woman's future children end up like...yikes...

Yes many women are slvts whom still want babies and to 'settle down'. Some do. I feel bad for the dude. Probably thinks he scored himself such a hottie.

Probably the best woman to settle down with is a woman whom has some level of self-respect and know what she wants. Someone who has had an acceptable level of partners, whatever that level is to you. Someone who hasn't foiled their ability to be a good parent or spouse through poor decisions in their youth.

But there are of course women who wanted to be good wives or wish to be good mothers but were treated poorly or cheated on...

But I hear you man -- nothing has frustrated me further than when a woman proclaims such seriousness, yet jumps from LTR to LTR latching on like a leech only to lose satisfaction and move on....I wouldn't say these women are too heavy in the self-esteem category or in self-reliance.
 

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This will have to be super quick.

I'm using MLTR to mean "Medium to Long Term Relationship", the last person I heard use that was Zarky, is he still around?

I think we're on the same page BM, but for anyone else reading I should just add that I am not a settling-down kind of guy, and I am more than happy for women to opt out of the marriage-mortgage-kids deal as well. Men are cool with the idea, women it seems, have some catching up to do.
 
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