Remember: you were redpill before you even knew what the redpill was. What was you VERY FIRST RP experience? ( dig deep!!)

[Gamisch]

Many of us wrongly assume that " sweet angel yxz" pushed us into the redpill after a failed ltr( where we simped like crazy huh?)

. But if you think about it you might've been RPd LONG before you even met her.L and she played you..

E.g you mother / sister/ aunt mightve been ...running the block and you saw it yet you erased it from you mind later in life...

You might've observed how girls responded to certain guys and it left you kinda speechless.

My older cousin was we some would call a " natural " and simultaneously he was ( and still is) a REAL badboy. It was mind boggling to see how women responded to him ,I'm talking me being 9/ 10 years old And he being like 14.

An uncle slept with another uncles wife( no brothers) . Even tho she always seemed like the stable strong independenwoman m she completely embarrassed herself by doing that.. again I was around 10/ 11 y.o.

So what was your VERY first RP experience in life?

 

[Mike32ct]

I have a long time female friend. She’s like a sister to me. Her, my (real) older brother and I all grew up together. Bro is shorter than me but has better skin tone, deeper voice and hunter eyes.

Our family rented a summer home for vacation. I was maybe 19 (so was she), but I was mentally about 13 in the girl department because I was grossly inexperienced and knew nothing at the time.

I walk upstairs to go chat with my bro. He’s not there.

Anyway, she’s in HIS room wearing a short tee and panties only. She’s like, “Where’s your brother?”

I froze because she was barely dressed; it was noontime, no reason to dress for bed; and she was oddly in HIS room. It did not register in my head what was going on at the time.

She told me years later that they hooked up while the rest of us cooked a BBQ lunch on the grill outside.

 

[Bible_Belt]

When I was in high school, I stole a key from a teacher that unlocked all the doors. My girlfriend and I would find an empty room for lunch every day, eat, and fvck. We never got caught. The lesson learned was that clearly the rules do not apply to me.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I'd encountered what many today call "Red Pill" thought as far back as late 90s-early 2000s, via things like The Man Show. Later on, I discovered Donna Lafromboise's The Princess At The Window, Patrice O'Neal, pre-Woke Askmen, and Dante Moore's The Re-Education Of The Female

Life was a lot saner when we were discussing these topics in everyday language("If you act pathetic and spineless, you've got no one else but yourself to blame for getting your head kicked in, by both women and fate more generally"), rather than mimicking The Woke Left's incurable hard-on for communicating in hopelessly opaque jargon, all for the sake of APPEARING to be The Smartest Folk In

 

[zekko]

My parents never divorced, or even came near it. I've always been grateful to them for giving me a stable household to grow up in.

Anyway, my sister got married, I was pretty young. I liked my new brother in law, and we accepted him as part of the family. Okay, cool. Flash forward a few years, and my sister met someone else and divorced her husband for this new guy (they ended up getting married, and this time they stayed married). But I remember her ex-husband coming to talk to us and how devastated he was. I thought it was pretty cruel of my sister to just dump this guy, and she seemed pretty cold about it.

I guess that was my first Red Pill Experience, and wake up call about how ruthless women could be. Hypergamy, I guess.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Red pilling experience: growing up lower middle class with all my teen years in the 90s in one of the NYC boroughs.

Hierarchy of the sexual market then:
1. Criminals, truants, scumbags, gang members, graffiti writers, drug users.
2. Rich boys (many Greeks in this bunch).
3. Good looking boys.
4. Everyone else, ordinary males, who mostly found gf’s and wives even they went away to school.

Heightism was not once mentioned by anyone. And I still feel lookism is bogus.

Most top RP influencers of today are deranged madmen.

 

[Desdinova]

Back when I was 15, I had a classmate that I ran into during the summer break. He was in the park with his GF and his sister. The sister took an immediate liking to me. She initiated kino and gave me her number. My problem was that I grew up in a religious home where I wasn't allowed to interact with girls, so I let it go stale.

I ran into her again with her new BF along with a friend and her BF. They were having fun making out in a field. They ended up chatting with me. The girl who gave me her number expressed how she was still interested in dating me. I told her that I was interested in her also. Anyway, I finally ended up calling her a couple of times. She told me that the guy was resistant to being dumped, but she kicked him to the curb in order to date me. We dated for a while, broke up, got back together, broke up. I was the one who kept ending it. She was a perpetual liar. Got my first BJ from her.

 

[Gamisch]

Great responses fellas!!!

 

[ValiantMale]

Mom cheating on dad growing up while he was away. That and east coast mentality.. grew up being told by older brothers and friends that women are a certain way.

I was also one of those kids that one ofthe first girls I dated cheated on me but i was clueless because I was so young. Another time one of the girls i dated, she left me and started dating my friend.

Those experiences shaped alot of my subconcious beliefs and behavior surrounding women for a while.. to the point I ended up not caring about emotions or other relationship stuff and only cared about lust.

Fastforward to now and I've reached a great amount of success in the dating world, was a coach for a handful of years and now i date younger girls who i also make content with some of them and make some $ off of it.

 

[zekko]

Hierarchy of the sexual market then:
1. Criminals, truants, scumbags, gang members, graffiti writers, drug users.

Graffiti writers is interesting. The appeal of the artist with an edge, I suppose.

 

[ValiantMale]

Graffiti writers is interesting. The appeal of the artist with an edge, I suppose.

Just a rebellious thing, kinda falls into the bad boy category.. I can totally see it.. That, and in the 80s and 90s you were basically considered a street artist lol

 

[BaronOfHair]

Graffiti writers is interesting. The appeal of the artist with an edge, I suppose.

Yeah, it's not their vocation that leads so many accountants and evolutionary biologists seeming undesirable... It's their dullness

 

[BadBoy89]

Bro is shorter than me but has better skin tone, deeper voice and hunter eyes.

Anyway, she’s in HIS room wearing a short tee and panties only. She’s like, “Where’s your brother?”

I froze because she was barely dressed; it was noontime, no reason to dress for bed; and she was oddly in HIS room. It did not register in my head what was going on at the time.

She told me years later that they hooked up while the rest of us cooked a BBQ lunch on the grill outside.

Surprising she did him when he was shorter than you.

A man’s height at that age is a very big deal for hot girls,

 

[Mike32ct]

Surprising she did him when he was shorter than you.

A man’s height at that age is a very big deal for hot girls,

Yeah it’s counterintuitive. She admitted to having a crush on my bro back in the day, but I never asked what specifically attracted her. I just chalked it up to hunter eyes (mostly), skin tone and deeper voice. But that’s just speculation.

Her and I still joke about it today.

Mike - “If we ever go back to the rental place, put some F-ing pants on and stay out of his room.”

Her - LOL.

 

[Vanderdonck]

In high school I was good looking and popular but too nice and unsure of myself in the girl dept.

Anyway I asked out this girl a year younger as we were vibing well. She accepted. We kissed and then I commenced with the simping. Pushing for exclusivity, chasing, talking to her friends ("does she like me?") etc. etc. A few times she let me down easy (she was very nice about it to be honest). LJBF and all that. I took it hard though. Puppy love and wondering what I was doing wrong.

At some point I accepted it. Told her to her face: Ok, you're right, we'll be friends. I won't bother you about this anymore. I started asking out her classmates, lol. Talking about my interest in other girls with her. Hey, we were friends now right?

A few weeks pass and she throws herself at me hard. "I'm in love with you, Vandy." Now, I could have rejected but hey, I still found her attractive and she was never a bytch to me. If she was tingling and aching for this then who was I to deny her. We had a great time together.

It taught me something important about attention and push/pull. I executed the shift without even knowing. I stored that in my files even though it would take a few years to really change my mentality.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Graffiti writers is interesting. The appeal of the artist with an edge, I suppose.

Graffiti was BIG in NYC in the 80s and 90s. A few were artistic; most weren’t. Graff is a violent and dangerous subculture.

 

[jhonny9546]

Hierarchy of the sexual market then:
1. Criminals, truants, scumbags, gang members, graffiti writers, drug users.
2. Rich boys (many Greeks in this bunch).
3. Good looking boys.
4. Everyone else, ordinary males, who mostly found gf’s and wives even they went away to school.

You're a mature man, you're on this forum to learn.
You'll be taught to have your own "set of things", increase your SMV, behave well, be assertive, don't talk badly about others, and have values.
At this point you tell about yourself... "I've worked hard for my life, I feel good about myself, I have many friends... I'm a good man and a good catch."

Then, as you work hard, you'll see with your own eyes how life unfolds.
The most beautiful women, the "good" ones (which your mother used to tell you by saying "she's a good woman.. how good is she?!"), end up with a category 1, or a mix of 1 and 2.
(If they will miss "the train", they will end up with a 4, but secrectly cheat with 1.)
They don't have a good SMV, they don't behave well, they're passive-aggressive, they talk badly about others behind their backs, or just mock people as an habit. They value beer and sports.
After their children are born, you'll see them hitting and insulting them, and their woman changes, adopting an attitude and behavior like the man, and she too becomes passive-aggressive.
Impossible to be around this couple.



The important thing is this:
We feel good as men as we are, even if we see our aunt having sex with the plumber and hiding it from our uncle... we're aware of it. That's fine.
But we're not aware of the fact that there are women out there who want the same thing we men desire: a healthy relationship, talking, laughing, and joking together. Appreciating life, having good, emotional, and animal sex.

Aneddotically, looking at my circle, the men who had "healthy" relationships ended up having the shortest LTR's (from 2 to 4years).
The longest LTR's are those between passive aggressive man, and those woman trying to support him anyway, and they trauma bond.

Are healthy relationships an internet myth or they're actually a solid thing?

 

[Manure Spherian]

Are healthy relationships an internet myth or they're actually a solid thing?

I consider my, my friends’, and most of my relatives’ marriages to be healthy.

 

[characternote]

I was fairly redpilled and blackilled from an early age in both the 'girls like legit bad boys' thing and also teh 'good looks' thing

The good looks thing was due to my best friend (and later my wingman) was a legit chad and it was crazy watching girls in school make a play for him and cheat on their boyfriends with him etc. In school he'd always be banging different girls (after school) in public places and stuff. Absolute stunners lol. One quite funny example later in life, now as guys approaching 30, was when he accidentally blocked a women in with his parking whilst he went to grab cigarettes. When we got back to the car she was really angry and was about to berate him and even began to do so, but as he got closer and she realised he was hot, she hit on him. Hard! And they ended up messing around in the back of his truck (think she was tipsy, tbh. Was quite late and in the pub/club part of our town)

In terms of the badboy angle, again, I was introduced to this at a young age because my own brother was a criminal. Lots of times in prison from drug dealing to armed robbery! He had a legit model girlfriend (before every girl was a model! pre social media, basically. She also had a model sister who I got with!) - And his lifestyle meant all of his friends and associates were also bad boy criminals (mostly enforcers and just violent dudes in and out of prison etc) and there was NO shortage of girls there, let me tell you! And often not the sort of girls you'd think (for example there were young female lawyers and stuff. Wasn't always the chavvy girls you'd expect)

 

[Mike32ct]

I have a lot of old red pill and black pill stories, but don’t want to clog up the thread lol.

I just went with my earliest known story per the initial post.