"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Ive been with this chic for some time now. She is very religious and hasnt been with anyone else. However after getting with me I have made her do certain sexual acts and every time I do, she enjoys it. However, the next day she gets all guilty and turns on her heels like shes a completely diff person.

Just yesterday night, we did some stuff the we didnt do before. See it as the next stage of being sexual. She loved it, but i knew next day shell be crying. However, This time she said she cant do this because she is religious and it goes against her beliefs thus wants to stay in contact for a year as friends and then marry.. She admits that its not only me who makes her do this stuff as she knows that she initiates it at times.

I told her that I wont wait for a year so if she wishes we can part ways but not to expect anything in the future OR we could remain in the relationship without letting it get sexual.She agreed on the latter.

I like this girl purely because she is innocent/virgin and is religious (same religion.) However i do believe she has BPD. Has had an abusive father too.

Am i making a mistake?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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9JuanJuan said:
Can you elaborate more on the sexual acts, like is she into bondage,slapping, choking??? Then regrets it?
We haven't done the above (as I am taking it slowly) but she deff has shown major interest in rape type sex and aggressive sex.

Eg me telling her that I will rape her and beat her while having sex changes her tone and she gets really turned on. I actually don't feel comfortable saying it but she made it apparent that that is what she likes.
 

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Rape and abduction play is a very common female fantasy.

we could remain in the relationship without letting it get sexual.

If there is no sexual aspect, then it's not a relationship.

Both of you are young, I'm guessing?

Read the Song of Solomon in the Old Testament. It's like soft-core porn. Jesus never said anything about sex, other than saying holier-than-thou churchy people are still sinners like everybody else. The anti-sex parts of the New Testament are written by Paul to the Church of Corinth. He was urging them to avoid the pagan orgies that competing churches were offering to attract members. That's what he meant by not being sexually immoral.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Rape and abduction play is a very common female fantasy.

we could remain in the relationship without letting it get sexual.

If there is no sexual aspect, then it's not a relationship.

Both of you are young, I'm guessing?

Read the Song of Solomon in the Old Testament. It's like soft-core porn. Jesus never said anything about sex, other than saying holier-than-thou churchy people are still sinners like everybody else. The anti-sex parts of the New Testament are written by Paul to the Church of Corinth. He was urging them to avoid the pagan orgies that competing churches were offering to attract members. That's what he meant by not being sexually immoral.
She's Muslim as I am.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Firestar786 said:
Given your muslim why not just marry her instead of fvck her about ?
because of her parents. Shes young so she wants to wait it out until they fully accept her decision.
 

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The Koran is pretty explicit about Mohammed's sexual exploits. He was a lot like King Solomon in that regard. Both of them fvcked like porn stars.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
The Koran is pretty explicit about Mohammed's sexual exploits. He was a lot like King Solomon in that regard. Both of them fvcked like porn stars.
Leave it out will you. The underlying thing in Islam is that one cannot date under any circumstances. Neither cn they commit adultery or do any sexual acts before marriage. Its both cultural and religious.Really ingrained within a lot of muslim girls, especially the religious ones.
 

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Don't you just love the religions that go completely against the human nature ? :)
 

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ChalengeGuyFan said:
Don't you just love the religions that go completely against the human nature ? :)
not really. Men are allowed 4 wives in Islam. Spinning plates since 600 AD. lol
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Muhammad had 11 wives...


Look bro as a married guy, I love my wife. we have good sex. we have sex often. But i'm going to tell you this. you're not going to listen, but i'm gong to telly ou this just so you can't say no one told you


nothing gets BETTER with marriage lol. If you have a good one, it stays about the same. We more or less have sex about the same as we did when we were dating. But I don't get more sex. Marriage doesn't unlock some super secret sex level that now I get new sex positions and an enraged sex drive. Your wife doesn't cook MORE when you are married. Your wife doesn't clean MORE when you are married.


I would never, ever, ever EVER marry a woman that would not put out before marriage. I don't think you understand how big of a deal marriage is. Get 2 kids then she decides she doesnt' wanna have sex anymore you're ****ed.

What if you marry her and she just isn't into sex?


Even if all goes well and she agrees to be more sexual once you're married it's not gonna be good sex lol.


If you want sex, and she is holding out, leave.
 

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Alpheta said:
because of her parents. Shes young so she wants to wait it out until they fully accept her decision.
she sounds confused.

on one hand shes doing things like giving you BJ's etc.
on the other hand later shes guilty?

and now your saying shes too young to get married or do anything like that because her parents might not accept her decision.

this is stupid because - shes happy to svck your c0ck but her parents wouldn't be content with marrying you off to her yet she/they are so religious?

if it were me just have fun with her and she'll realise later that maybe she should have got married instead of make stupid excuses lol she honestly does not sound like wife material to me...
 

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backbreaker said:
Muhammad had 11 wives...


Look bro as a married guy, I love my wife. we have good sex. we have sex often. But i'm going to tell you this. you're not going to listen, but i'm gong to telly ou this just so you can't say no one told you


nothing gets BETTER with marriage lol. If you have a good one, it stays about the same. We more or less have sex about the same as we did when we were dating. But I don't get more sex. Marriage doesn't unlock some super secret sex level that now I get new sex positions and an enraged sex drive. Your wife doesn't cook MORE when you are married. Your wife doesn't clean MORE when you are married.


I would never, ever, ever EVER marry a woman that would not put out before marriage. I don't think you understand how big of a deal marriage is. Get 2 kids then she decides she doesnt' wanna have sex anymore you're ****ed.

What if you marry her and she just isn't into sex?


Even if all goes well and she agrees to be more sexual once you're married it's not gonna be good sex lol.


If you want sex, and she is holding out, leave.
You have a good woman! A good woman wants her man satisfied.

One of these selfish hot girls, thinks about them selves first. So having a husband happy was never one of her top priorities.

And like you say, nothing gets BETTER with marriage. No magical flooding of additional sex and passion will be released.

As a matter of fact in AMERICAN culture being married is almost a guarantee that you will lose out on some of the things she did while dating to "keep" and "hook" you, because after marriage you already fully hooked.
 

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mrgoodstuff said:
You have a good woman! A good woman wants her man satisfied.

One of these selfish hot girls, thinks about them selves first. So having a husband happy was never one of her top priorities.

And like you say, nothing gets BETTER with marriage. No magical flooding of additional sex and passion will be released.

As a matter of fact in AMERICAN culture being married is almost a guarantee that you will lose out on some of the things she did while dating to "keep" and "hook" you, because after marriage you already fully hooked.
I think the culture im from and a lot of muslims actually really keeps the woman preserved after marriage. Meaning she tends be rather loyal once married. Its a no no to be cheating or even think of other men. As much as people see it as backwards, im smiling :) lol
 

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Alpheta said:
not really. Men are allowed 4 wives in Islam. Spinning plates since 600 AD. lol
This actually compliments human nature. Men have the desire to fvck more than one woman, so why not keep 4 of them around? Not only that, it compliments the woman's need to have a support system and a circle of gossip to keep things interesting, so who better than the other three women her husband's fvcking?

IMO, this is the optimal family arrangement. It provides everything that both sexes need.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Desdinova said:
This actually compliments human nature. Men have the desire to fvck more than one woman, so why not keep 4 of them around? Not only that, it compliments the woman's need to have a support system and a circle of gossip to keep things interesting, so who better than the other three women her husband's fvcking?

IMO, this is the optimal family arrangement. It provides everything that both sexes need.
As long as the ratio of men to women is 1:4, so that every man must take 4 wives or there will be lonely women. Lonely males with nothing to lose is the last thing you want in a civilization... especially if they outnumbered men with wives by 3 to 1.
 

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Oh man that girl is pure gold, does kinky stuff and then feels guilty? Oh man, I love doing it full force, actually all women like it, this is how you make love like a man, oh my, oh boy, rape type of powerplay, this is freakin amazing. This girl is pure find, hook me up if you decide to break up, I dont see whats the trouble. Lucky bastard :D
 
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