"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Relationships elements: #1 Negotiation

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We all know that the early stages of a relationship can feel wild and intoxicating. Infatuation has a way of taking over our minds and making everything seem extraordinary. But sooner or later, every relationship evolves into a kind of exchange, a balance between what each person brings to the table and what each person genuinely needs. The negotiation


For men there are certain qualities that hold real weight, traits that matter both in our own eyes and in the eyes of women, the, what we have to offer...also, as men, do we actually know what we need?

If you had to create a list, no more than five items, for each of the following:
a) “What a man must have to offer”
b) “What a man must need from a woman”

…what would be the five most valuable things?
This community is full of thoughtful, high-value men, so feel free to break the limit of 5 if you believe the list deserves more.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I don’t understand why the need to post all these bright ideas you have been coming up with like you’re Sun Tzu laying out the Art of Seduction

you do realize these concept are all explained in substantially better detail in the links provided on the front page of this website do you not?
 

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The key to a successful long term relationship is not about "negotiation". Its about complimenting each other's needs. A little like yin and yang.

Here's some things that women find universally attractive( to varying degrees):

What the most successful men offer:
A. Stability
B. Providership
C. Security
D. Leadership
E. Doesn't get rattled by her emotions.

What a man needs:

A woman that compliments him.
 

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a man should offer
1 self confident (easier said than done)
2 common sense
3 have a passion
4 resources

a man needs
1 a woman that choose him.
2 a woman that excite him.
3 a woman that submit to him.
 

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It's about complimenting each other's needs.
It would be necessary to better understand what you mean; it seems interesting.

I appreciate your list, and I disagree with your list of a man's desires.
I agree about successful men and what they offer, but you wrote as if stability were the first priority.
There are very influential and powerful men, in couples who argue every day and degrade their woman.
Their woman complains about them (E), and they don't get upset, but ignore and amplify it, making her explode (she'll tell him he's an ******* and that she's out of patience, and she'll walk away angrily).
And yet they remain there. Something is missing from your list, which leans too much toward the "nice guy."
I'll make mine soon too.

3 a woman that submits to him.
I agree, thanks for your input, while the focus on male interests needs to be expanded.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It would be necessary to better understand what you mean; it seems interesting.

I appreciate your list, and I disagree with your list of a man's desires.
I agree about successful men and what they offer, but you wrote as if stability were the first priority.
There are very influential and powerful men, in couples who argue every day and degrade their woman.
Their woman complains about them (E), and they don't get upset, but ignore and amplify it, making her explode (she'll tell him he's an ******* and that she's out of patience, and she'll walk away angrily).
And yet they remain there. Something is missing from your list, which leans too much toward the "nice guy."
I'll make mine soon too.



I agree, thanks for your input, while the focus on male interests needs to be expanded.
I didn't number my list in order of importance.

The relationship you described is not my version of something that is "successful".
 

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The key to a successful long term relationship is not about "negotiation". Its about complimenting each other's needs. A little like yin and yang.

Here's some things that women find universally attractive( to varying degrees):

What the most successful men offer:
A. Stability
B. Providership
C. Security
D. Leadership
E. Doesn't get rattled by her emotions.

What a man needs:

A woman that compliments him.
E

all day
 

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I always think the #1 most important quality I look for in a woman is loyalty. It's a rare and elusive characteristic, however.
 

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I always think the #1 most important quality I look for in a woman is loyalty. It's a rare and elusive characteristic, however.
This goes beyond a man capacity to keep her loyal. It's in her nature.

We can just control , what we can control
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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