"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Relationship advice needed.

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So I am 22(23 soon) and am involved with a 49 year old...yes I know huge age gap, whatever. I should probably mention that we have a strange relationship characterized by mutual love and strong attraction for one another. But it's not a gravy train type relationship that I would probably have with another person of my age.

I guess the advice I need is simple. Regarding two things. Is how can I get her to have sex with me? Often at times we have made it a little further each time I try to initiate something. But she seems so reserved because in the past she thought I only wanted casual sex but I reassured her that I wanted to develop something more meaningful with her. Her reservations are based around a few premises, for example "If I don't have sex then I can say we're not doing anything"(to people at work), and perhaps around the fact that I probably let too much info slip about my past promiscuity. I can arouse her and turn her on...remove the sheets on top of her and lift up her shirt and be extremely sensual but she'll keep pulling the sheets back over her...she says inviting things about my member when she feels it hard against her...and I slip my hands down into her panties and finger her. I've gotten a little further and have put a finger inside of her but s he gets so incredibly flustered and anxious that she just starts telling me to stop in a vindictive way while grabbing my wrist and saying "Okay, wait, wait, stop". I don't just give in the first time she says it of course, but there's only so much a girl can say "Stop" where it's going to get to the point that she's going to cry out something stupid like rape or think I'm only interested in sex. I do want to **** her but I'm willing to respect boundaries when she tells me to stop.

The other issue I want advice on is hanging out. I love spending time with her and hanging out with her. But how do I approach this? If I want to hang out with her should I just call her after work and ask her if she wants to hang out? The main thing I'm trying to not do is look needy while still being able to spend a lot of time with her. I want it to look like I want to spend time with her which I legitimately do.

Thanks!
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Speaking of gravy train, grandma ought to be paying you to fvck her.

Assuming your post is real, you are choosing to pursue an impossible relationship, because it keeps you from failing at the realistic ones, which you have decided can only occur when you pay a girl to be with you.

It would be different if you were fvcking other women, or hell, even fvcking this old lady. But you obviously have a lot to learn about women, and you're not going to learn anything productive trying to game an old woman who has been gaming men for longer than you have been alive.
 

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^This. She's playing you. Plain and simple.
 

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Espi said:
I know you're looking for sex advice, but I'm gonna STRONGLY suggest that you think this through first...

When you're 32 she'll be 59...
When you're 42 she'll be 69.

This might be a "whatever" concern to you, but to her, it's probably MUCH more significant.

I don't know what's going through her mind...I'm not psychic...but she's
PROBABLY thinking these two things:

"I'm 49 and would LOVE to fvuck a 22-year-old, but I know there's no future in it, so I'm thinking he wants me just for sex, so I'll make him WORK for it."

"I'm 49 and he's 22. I'll be washed up soon--he'll lose physcial attraction for me. So I'm not sure I wanna get involved."

Watch out with the older women.

If you want sex, be upfront about it.

The likelihood of you staying involved with her as she ages is likely to wither each year. Even if she's exceptionally gorgeous for 49, she'll start to show her age.

And have you even thought about kids? Do you want them?

In my opinion, you're risking fvucking around with a woman's emotions...

Tread carefully.
Good advice. So basically, if I want to ****, what's the best way of getting it out of her as quickly as possible?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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**** i'm not trolling, jesus.
 

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thatfeel said:
So I am 22(23 soon) and am involved with a 49 year old...
Fact is that women's sexual peak is when they hit 30.
Hers was 20 years ago.
When you still had nappies on.

There's no future here, either for sex or a relationship. Actually, there is, but for you it's all bad.
 

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Dude...OP....why is your sosuave name so similar to mines?
 

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Cremasta said:
Fact is that women's sexual peak is when they hit 30.
Hers was 20 years ago.
When you still had nappies on.

There's no future here, either for sex or a relationship. Actually, there is, but for you it's all bad.
what would i have to do to make both of these a future? be 45+~ years old?
 

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Thatfeel21 said:
Dude...OP....why is your sosuave name so similar to mines?
cause bro i am become that feel
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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FOR GOD'S SAKE! SHE'S 50! 50!
and of course she's not Demi Moore, so she's just and old lady....brrbbbbbb... Im gonna throw up.
She just does not want you to see her naked body, thats all, because she knows if you see it, you're not gonna like what you see.

You fingered her? great! I mean, aGGGGGGGG so disgusting!

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