baffledking
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Alone and broke, you say? "Great, I've got drinks at my place and room for two."
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Refusing to buy a drink
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dynamic
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Wrong woman
I'm guessing that your game was weak that night anyway, most women don't try to manipulate a strong male presence. Your actions and that you are even thinking about it anymore are evidence.
Believe you can have any woman you want. Whatever it takes to do that... do it. Then you will consciously stay away from such women because you'll be too busy seducing the cream of the crop.
Your problem is that you are trying to get that particular girl, to do something that will impress her. The fact that she's being a brat when you don't give her her way (which is giving into her manipulations and getting nothing in return) should be your first sign that you want nothing to do with this woman.randomusername said:
I'm guessing that your game was weak that night anyway, most women don't try to manipulate a strong male presence. Your actions and that you are even thinking about it anymore are evidence.
Believe you can have any woman you want. Whatever it takes to do that... do it. Then you will consciously stay away from such women because you'll be too busy seducing the cream of the crop.
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Damn, I should have used that but, she'd have to leave the this morning and not steal anything. I try to remember to lock up my valuables before I go out and I usually try to get it back to her place for sex not mine, if possible.baffledking said:
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i never really thought much about it, it just happened when I was at a happy hour. i've got a good memory.Dynamic said:
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It is simple, IF you are attracted to her say, "I'll buy you drinks at our next encounter - what are your digits?"
If She declines then say, "Stupid Ho, tricks are for kids!!"
If She declines then say, "Stupid Ho, tricks are for kids!!"
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I bought drinks for 2 girls once in my life.
I was at the bar with 2 friends. It was my turn to pick up a tab. One of the friends start chatting up 2 HB5's (not even attractive, but plain to less than plain). This friend says something about wanting to order shots from the bartender. I say PUT IT ON MY TAB.
Then after that the girls look to me and say hi nice to meet you and walk away. The other friend says "Dude you just bought them shots and they just walk away!" I said "what? I paid for THEIR SHOTS? That's BS! I thought we were getting a round for ourselves!"
That was the first and last time I bought random women drinks. I never get asked and I'm sure not volunteering. Last time I was at the bar I saw this HB in a popular bar for young HBs.. She was with the short fat bald ugly guy who always shows up. I was like, she's with him? Bet he's buying the drinks. Sure enough, he laid the money down ad they both got shots. Pathetic. Both of them.
I was at the bar with 2 friends. It was my turn to pick up a tab. One of the friends start chatting up 2 HB5's (not even attractive, but plain to less than plain). This friend says something about wanting to order shots from the bartender. I say PUT IT ON MY TAB.
Then after that the girls look to me and say hi nice to meet you and walk away. The other friend says "Dude you just bought them shots and they just walk away!" I said "what? I paid for THEIR SHOTS? That's BS! I thought we were getting a round for ourselves!"
That was the first and last time I bought random women drinks. I never get asked and I'm sure not volunteering. Last time I was at the bar I saw this HB in a popular bar for young HBs.. She was with the short fat bald ugly guy who always shows up. I was like, she's with him? Bet he's buying the drinks. Sure enough, he laid the money down ad they both got shots. Pathetic. Both of them.
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A simple "sure, do you like water?" will suffice
Production6257
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I'd probably say "Yea, sure! Bartender, I'll have a Miller Lite." Then when I get it I'd just grab it and walk past her with my middle finger in the air, probably with a little smile on my face so-as not to come across as an uptight a-hole.
I can't stand those ****y b!tches at parties and bars. I have heard many girls talking about how they just go to bars with no money and use guys to buy them their drinks. They just laugh about how pathetically easy it is.
I can't stand those ****y b!tches at parties and bars. I have heard many girls talking about how they just go to bars with no money and use guys to buy them their drinks. They just laugh about how pathetically easy it is.
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I make it a point NOT to buy drinks for girls.....but you know what, rules are meant to be broken depending on how you feel.
i like to have a good time....not everytime you buy a girl a drink is some sort of manipulation or scheme to get free drinks from you...obviously it does happen and even worse is when dude thinks it will get her in better graces. I'm a generous guy and if I'm drinking and having a good time and I want to buy a girl a drink, I will. Do I think it will bring me closer to getting further with her? no. maybe it will, but that's not my point. The point is to enjoy the experience and have a good time. I'll buy a girl a drink if I want to.....its just a feeling of intuition to be honest.
i like to have a good time....not everytime you buy a girl a drink is some sort of manipulation or scheme to get free drinks from you...obviously it does happen and even worse is when dude thinks it will get her in better graces. I'm a generous guy and if I'm drinking and having a good time and I want to buy a girl a drink, I will. Do I think it will bring me closer to getting further with her? no. maybe it will, but that's not my point. The point is to enjoy the experience and have a good time. I'll buy a girl a drink if I want to.....its just a feeling of intuition to be honest.