"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Red Pill Woman??

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I tried searching on here for threads Red pill woman but couldn't find anything. Is this just hypergamy at it's finest?

I have a 3rd date set-up with a 25yr old HB8, she admitted to being Redpill woman the 2nd time we met up. I'm oblivious guys what the hell does this mean? Does this just mean that they have "DJ/Game awareness?

I couldn't escalate on the second date, she brought a friend along that was my age I think? I think it was to size me up, it was a last minute happy hour before a hockey game. I pretty much held a good frame and kept them entertained without even trying really.

So the older broad was b1tching about how beta guys where.(She didn't use the term tho.) So I threw it out there and said it. "You're talking about how guys are either alpha or beta. They both took there hands to their face and BLUSHED pretty hard and admitted they use the terms when describing men. Later on the 2 of them bragged that they are alpha woman, I just chuckled and shook my head.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Nevermind, brief moment of stupidity. I know what red pill is, I swallowed it a couple years ago.
 

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Damn not 1 comment on this. Has anyone had a plate that admitted this?
If a woman is red pill does that mean she just ridin the carousel....
 

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Lol a woman said she was a "redpill" woman .. you bring this up in dating conversation?
 

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Being "redpill" doesnt concern them....so never bring up this kind of stuff(talking about "alpha" and "beta")

If they magically admit to being "redpill", just act confused and go to the next topic immediately....then laugh to yourself. ALSO....if you are ever accused of being "redpill" or "game aware"...deny til death. Never say anything like:

-Ya, Im a PUA what up
-Yaaaa ive read some manosphere blogs
-Ya im a big pretty anti feminist
-I used to be beta but now I am alpha.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Sitting here next to a red pill woman (hb8.5) who has more game than anyone I know. She loves it. Gets anything she wants and Drives every guy she's ever dated into AFC winey ***** mode Except..... For me haha.

Been best friends and a plate of mine for YEARS. We've always had a secret relationship on the side no matter who we're dating - even her best friends. It's great. She is well aware of my red pillness and comes back for more. She often tells me about "lame betas" and how she ditched all the AFC's to hang out with me tonight haha - literally what she says. It's hilarious. She really is a true female DJ and says im the only one who really knows what girls want and how to hold em down. Tells me she loves me when we're drunk haha. When you do recognize a red pill woman - make sure you game her better than she games you and you'll be a god to her :up:
 

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TheException said:
Being "redpill" doesnt concern them....so never bring up this kind of stuff(talking about "alpha" and "beta")

I agree, this may sound off but I think it actually peaked her interest, don't forget the broad is 25, I'm 34. I met up with her again tonight and neither of us brought it up. She's a second plate for now just having fun trying different shlt out.

If they magically admit to being "redpill", just act confused and go to the next topic immediately....then laugh to yourself. ALSO....if you are ever accused of being "redpill" or "game aware"...deny til death. Never say anything like:

-Ya, Im a PUA what up
-Yaaaa ive read some manosphere blogs
-Ya im a big pretty anti feminist
-I used to be beta but now I am alpha.
Yeah, I would never bring up any of that specific info.^^^
When the plate mentioned red pill(reddit), I just said oh ok yeah like the Matrix, red pill/blue pill and I left it at that.



MidnightCity said:
all women are "Red pill" women. women learn at a young age and are more predisposed to the game than men are. chick game is organic. but that is the extent of their game. their strength is also their weakness. it may take men more of a conscious effort to become game aware/learn game but ours can evolve into meta-game because of our pre-disposition to logic.

what those girls meant to tell you is that they are aware of the manosphere and its zeitgeist. nothing more. being consciously aware of the game does not make anyone immune to its mechanics.

That was my first thougth too, just wasn't sure.

there is also no such thing as an "alpha female". this is just another equalist trope of women attempting to adopt a masculine identity/characteristics.

I thought the exact same thing when they said it & just laughed it off.

as far as women go there is only babes and nays. shy girly girls and "attention wh0res"

Agreed 100%

and thats all you need to know.

what Theexception said is also true. NEVER admit to knowing anything about seduction
I've had told ex's in the past in a c/f way that I have game awareness. More or less that broads are a dime a dozen mentality. It's never come back to bite me but yes I agree it does come off like you are bragging, no one likes a bragger, I get it. Or they might start to think you are a player and at that point I tell them yeah I play hockey.
 

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Dgwizdal said:
Sitting here next to a red pill woman (hb8.5) who has more game than anyone I know. She loves it. Gets anything she wants and Drives every guy she's ever dated into AFC winey ***** mode Except..... For me haha. Been best friends and a plate of mine for YEARS. We've always had a secret relationship on the side no matter who we're dating - even her best friends. It's great. She is well aware of my red pillness and comes back for more. She often tells me about "lame betas" and how she ditched all the AFC's to hang out with me tonight haha - literally what she says. It's hilarious. She really is a true female DJ and says im the only one who really knows what girls want and how to hold em down. Tells me she loves me when we're drunk haha. When you do recognize a red pill woman - make sure you game her better than she games you and you'll be a god to her :up:
Cool Story Bro.............................................

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Lotus Effect said:
Cool Story Bro.............................................

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Actually a great story bro....same social circle and everything.
 

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Actually with wolves there is an alpha male and an alpha female and they run the show together. Nevertheless, when a girl tells you they are alpha, they just want you to think of them as some kind of super woman, it doesn't have to mean a lot. I believe it is solid advice to never bring up PUAism, but I do wonder...

One girl, a friend of mine whom I have never been interested in, knows about my interest in PUA. At one time I was disqualifying her as a potential partner for me and she experienced it as a neg. She said "Are you trying your skills on me? If I hadn't had a boyfriend, it would have worked." I don't really know what to make of that - something either works, or it doesn't - but women can become extremely interested in you if you appear to possess skill with women. They will forever wonder if you are working your magic on them. It fascinates them - a guy who knows the secrets of womanhood and can use it 'against' them - that's a turn-on. You keep them forever guessing.

@Dgwizdal: you had me laugh out loud there. A girl who is into your secrets AND is hooked to you. It doesn't get much better than that :).
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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@dryden all things about her being memorized are true. She is the only girl I've ever told. She sees it work on other women - and preselection in her mind wanders about in overdrive because she consciously knows i know the tricks to create attraction with them. Sometimes she'll tell me to "turn it off for her" with a puppy dog look and question my real feelings. I usually just say "Dont worry Allie, you're a fun girl and I like you for who you "really" are" with a smirk ;)
 
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