Red flag or social incompetence?

[Greasy Pig]

Whenever I try to organise a date and a girl says she can't make it, my ears immediately prick up to see if she then offers an alternative time to meet me.
If it's just a flat excuse like: "Oh, I've got sewing with my mum that night" and not a: "Oh, I've got sewing with my mum that night but I'm free on Wednesday night", I don't bother getting back in touch (99% of the time).

Sure people can get busy but I consider a woman not offering an alternative time to meet as the biggest indicator of a low IL so I leave her alone.
Do you guys agree or are some women simply so socially inept that they don't consider offering an alternative.
I guess the answer is probably that if she really was interested she'd be compelled to offer an alternative meeting time.

 

[Vader]

Till I watched the bond movie where he counter offered right there. If Saturday is bad how about Sunday.....No later. No secound call. There has to be a warm fuzzy feeling though.

 

[boomerick]

See my signature line and follow the instructions. What you're doing with counter offers has been well covered and is explained in the Bible.

 

[synergy1]

Counter offer or not really worth the time. Same goes for business deals as well. I am getting better at knowing when a client wants to brush us off.

Got better uses of my time than pursuing half interested people in any venture be it friendship, women, or business.

 

[Colossus]

I think that's good practice. If YOU have to make the counter-offer, you're bartering with her and her interest is very mild at best.

 

[squirrels]

It's social incompetence. Namely, women don't have the "balls" to just say NO.

Give her two options date-time-wise. If she refuses both and doesn't counter, she's not very interested. If she refuses both but DOES counter-offer, it's YOUR discretion whether you want to take it or not.

You really ought to not have 2 days + 1 on a week that you are free to date whatever comes along. If you do...get a life.

 

[quicklearner]

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Greasy Pig

Women are inept/incompetent in many things, but I have yet to meet a women who had not mastered the art of social interaction.

Unfortunately, it is the men who are inept and have no clue.

-no women is unavailable, if she is interested in you, she will come see you

-a personal examples (.i.e, my friend who is a CV-Heart Surgeon, takes time out of her lunch/or schedule to go a brief dates). Believe me, she is “busy” and even gets her bills at the hospital address.

 

[jophil28]

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Greasy Pig

Women are inept/incompetent in many things, but I have yet to meet a women who had not mastered the art of social interaction.

Unfortunately, it is the men who are inept and have no clue.

Not quite. In my experience, women have two sets of social rules . They have a finely crafted collection of polite and courteous behaviors which are activated in their relationships with their sisters, their girlfriends and even for casual female acquaintances. Women tend to preserve their connections with other women at all costs. Peer approval rules.
However, when it comes to relating to the men in their life, these 'rules' are either suspended or regarded as "flexible" .

Can you imagine a woman simply flaking on an arranged coffee meeting with a new girl acquaintance. IF she could not show up, at the least she would call the other woman and profusely apologize and suggest another time in the next week or so for them to meet.
Contrast that with the flaky behavior and the last minute cancelations of dates ,complete with lame BS excuses, that most of us have copped from women.
Why the double standards ? I"m not sure, but I do believe that a contributing factor to its longevity is mens' willingness to accept this second class behavior.
Most women treat men like wait staff - and most men tolerate it.