“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Recovering Nice Guys/AFS's, a question...

Infern0

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For all of you who are rehabbing from this and getting into being succesful, one question, how was your upbringing?

In my case I had an emotionally stable mother, who demonstrated a lot of BPD traits, who either "needed me" when she was unhappy, or pretty much ignored me when things was going well, my Dad was pretty much non existant except when my mum told him to punish me, he'd checked out mentally a long time ago.

In looking back it's pretty obvious where my problems came from, you get raised by that and its no surprise.

Anyway just wondering, if you are someone who used to fall into the "nice guy" category, how was your upbringing?
 

Lozboss

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Depends what you mean by nice guy. I use Rob Glovers definition from his book.

I had a very good upbringing with great parents. My downfall is that my success and interactions with women only ramped up in my early twenties.
 

skinnyguy

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My dad is one of the biggest betas I know. My mom cared about me but didn't have friends always was around the house. I didn't do anything in HS other than study.

On top of that I was Indian in an all white town
 

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I am being raised as an only child by my loving mother. My father did not teach me how to be a man, and is estranged from me. I still have plenty of work to do in DJhood but at least I am less AFC. My life changed when I grew a pair of balls.
 

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What stuck out to me was "emotionally stable" and "BPD traits" in the same sentence, there's no such fvcking thing. If she was emotionally stable she would not flip between needing you and rejecting you, it's a roller coaster needs, when down and ignores when up. How is that stable? It's going from one extreme to the opposite without any balance or at least moderated normal fluctuations. I can certainly understand your dad just going mentally offline, dealing with such an unstable personality is very stressful.

Onto me now. My mother is a vulnerable narcissist, point at any flaw and you start world war 3. My father ditched her when I was 2 years old, shortly after he found my step-mother. They've been married for almost 20 years, still going strong together. I lived some of my time with my mother, but after the age of 10 I lived with my father and step-mother until I moved out at 19. Used to sleep at my mothers apartment every other weekend, went fine until about the age of 14. That's when I found out she smoked weed, there was a lot of fighting between her and her boyfriend at that time until they broke up for the last time. I witnessed her physically threatening suicide, he strangling her, they using amphetamine and other drugs. I will never forget her sitting with a knife to her throat, that happened once and on my way to recovery I spent 2 months in extreme depression trying to deal with that one memory.

If that wasn't bad enough it got worse when he finally after 10 years of abuse packed his sh!t and left, this was 3-4 years ago I believe. What happened then was that she shifted her focus onto me, I was practically the only person left in her life. She called and I did sh!t for her all the time, buy groceries because she was "too sick", pick up her medication (strong pain killers, way more than she needed, clearly abuse and addiction) and her doctor didn't have enough balls to stand up to her. If I just even hinted at not doing what she wanted I faced guilt trips, shaming tactics, suicide threats, death threats and extreme rage being called pretty much the nastiest things you can imagine hearing. If I didn't do what she wanted I was a worthless piece of sh!t that didn't deserve the light of day, that was pretty much the most emotionally damaging thing I have ever experienced.

Being exposed to all that sh!t and eventually being the main target made me the world's biggest doormat and people pleaser. I jumped whenever someone wanted me to jump out of pure fear for my life. I feared people to death, I was having trouble with even taking an innocent phone call to something as simple as customer service. I was alone, fearful, desperate and the only places I felt safe was home, with the few friends I had left and at work. This is why I was a nice guy, I expected everyone to be as cruel as my mother.

My father and step-mother always supported me and they love me like there's no tomorrow, they have fought for years trying to keep me on a good path. When I moved out they couldn't watch over me anymore, so I became isolated and fearful, when I was home they paid attention and noticed when something was off. On my recovery I realized how much they care and how little my mother cares, in fact I place far more value on my step-mother than my biological mother. My relationship role model is my father and step-mother, they've gone through so much sh!t and they never gave up on each other. Today this is paying off for both of them, they're just pure awesome.

What they're doing is working and has worked for about 20 years now, there's no indication of it ending until they're dead. As for my mother I told her to fvck off and went NC. I won back my confidence, my self-respect, my feelings, my co-workers respect, my creativity, my will to live and fvcking love it.

tl;dr My mother is a fvcked up narcissist, my father and step-mother are awesome and my upbringing was mostly very good with a few too many extremely negative events. I feel successful now and there's more to come.
 
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