"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Reason I haven't been laid yet probably... I'm too cowardly to escalate.

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I mean yeah, I can approach all friggin day but I'm afraid to escalate. This is what keeps me from being a freaking natural. I can be undesperate as I want, I can be as chill as I want, but let's face it, I'm never gonna get laid if I don't escalate. Reason I'm scared is no matter HOW confident you are that some escalation will work girls will still resist. But really I'm thinking about just ditching a girl right off the bat if she rejects. It's like she don't know what she's missing that's her fault and I can probably find a girl who DOES know what she's missing.

But yeah, I got to start escalating more.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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1600 posts and still fear of escalation?

Interesting.

There's actually a physical escalation & kissing audio file that I have that's really good, and can help out tremendously.

Also, Vin DiCarlo's physical escalation ladder is a fantastic read, and it'll actually reverse your fear and make you keen on escalating.

Check them out.
 

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Well yeah thanks and I've looked at the escalation latter before myself. I might actually try it.

But lol my recent sets have been talk talk talk and literally no escalation but high fives and stuff.

And that's all it is is fear. Something else that's true is sometimes you'll just get bad sets where the girl will just be in some weird mood. I tend to ignore those. I know this cause I've had sets where I was having fun and the girl wanted to eject.

This Australian RSD guy also has a good way of putting it that may be true. The longer you take to escalate, the weirder it'll be. I'm definitely going to try using that mindset and just go in escalating from the beggining.

But man is escalating complicated in some situations. For instance, if she's sitting across from you at a table, escalation can be hard. And usually if she's not right next to you it can be hard.

I know you guys despise what I'm trying to do, but I'm trying to successfully approach and escalate to a kiss. I've seen it done before in videos, IN day game. Apparently it's just about being natural and escalating when you feel like escalating and not worrying if she'll reject.
 

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Watch a few James Bond movies!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I hate to turn this into something about me,but I relate to what he says. I mean,The want is there,but the tool's aren't. Make sense? I mean,I just can't go out,be carefree,and whatever happens happens. I don't know where or what that comes from. I mean,I feel it's the opposite of how I should be,happy,care-free,etc. I think it stem's from an inexperience,and probably awkwardness,esp seing younger people "getting it",that is the game,more than me. I am kind of all over the place right now.
 

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Youve been saying this for a month and havent done sh*t. You can escalate because 1) youre not suppose to make out with a girl at a f*cking lunch table with strangers around and 2) you dont use kino. Youve been here long enough to understand the theory and philosophy behind everything, but once again you fail to show that you possess such knowledge which explains why youre in such a position. And as ive said in your previous post.... GET A F*CKING DATE BEFORE YOU POST! Stop complaining about the samething over and over when youve done nothing constructive to alliviate such a problem. Its funny how you ONLY approach and havent EVER hung out with a girl after youve met her. Why havent you? Because you lack a fundamental understanding of how these things work. When you get a date, we can be best f*ckin friends. God, you as stubborn and hard headed as a damn mule.
 

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Well yeah thanks and I've looked at the escalation latter before myself. I might actually try it.

I suggest you do, not only is it thorough and detailed, but it is very simple to follow and very natural feeling.

But lol my recent sets have been talk talk talk and literally no escalation but high fives and stuff.

And that's all it is is fear. Something else that's true is sometimes you'll just get bad sets where the girl will just be in some weird mood. I tend to ignore those. I know this cause I've had sets where I was having fun and the girl wanted to eject.

This happens, just forget about it and don't even pay any attention to it. Why concentrate on the negative when the positive is so much funner?

This Australian RSD guy also has a good way of putting it that may be true. The longer you take to escalate, the weirder it'll be. I'm definitely going to try using that mindset and just go in escalating from the beggining.

Careful with this, you need to read the set and take temperature readings as it were, on their willingness to accept kino and other escalation from you. Use your judgement on this.

But man is escalating complicated in some situations. For instance, if she's sitting across from you at a table, escalation can be hard. And usually if she's not right next to you it can be hard.

This is where social tricks and learned skills come into play. learn some card tricks, pretend to read her hand, start throwing skittles at her and see if she can catch them with her mouth. There's alot of possibilities, just get creative and fun with them.

I know you guys despise what I'm trying to do, but I'm trying to successfully approach and escalate to a kiss. I've seen it done before in videos, IN day game. Apparently it's just about being natural and escalating when you feel like escalating and not worrying if she'll reject.

I'd worry more about getting escalation at all before worrying about this. I don't despise the idea, but it just seems so pointless to me.

You're in college man, you should be making a huge social circle and going to parties, events, all sorts of things where you can do warm approaches with people you're introduced to. Much higher success rate, less chance of you coming off as creepy, and higher social proof!

It's like being in an oasis, parched with thirst, and instead of drinking the water, you're trying to climb a palm tree for a coconut!

Get your priorities straight, choose a plan of action, stick to it, and stop whining.
 
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5 out of his last 25 threads are about being afraid to escalate... schizo?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Day 2's!
 

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Here. I'll paint you a picture of how this is supposed to work, from cold approach to banging:

You: "Hi. My name is -------."
Her: "Hello."
You: "This is the part where you tell me your name. If you don't, I'm going to have to assume that it's Gertrude. You and I both know that it isn't, so you may as well come clean."
Her: *giggle* "My name is -------."
You: "Uggh. I think I like Gertrude better." *Sly smile*
"Anyway ------, the reason I'm talking to you is because my buddy asked me to. *Point towards wingman* See he's kind of a shy person, but a real sweet guy. Good people. Anywho, he wanted me to ask you if you think I'm good looking. Out of all the people in the area, we decided that your opinion matters most"

Her: *Hopefully giggling. Kind of a toss up, but if you have congruent C&F tone and body language, this should surprise her and make her smile* "Sure."
You: Faaaan-tastic! Now, the fact that I'm good looking... It's no secret. My momma knew it, my teachers knew it, and you know it. The reason my buddy *gesture to wingman* wanted me to ask you this, is because we wanted to test your honesty.
Her: Test my honesty?
You: Yes. Honesty is a big deal to my buddy *gesture to wingman* and he wanted to make sure that you were the right kind of person before he asked you.
Her: Asked me what?
You: My buddy *gesture towards wingman* wanted me to ask you if you like to have fun. You know... Good times. Lolly-Jollies and whatnot
Her: Sure
You: Good! Then it's decided!
Her: What?
You: *scratch the back of your head. This is your wingmans signal to send you a text message. Start talking until it gets there* Well, ------, you are an honest, fun-loving girl. Me? I'm a smart, funny, good-looking guy. The kind of guy thats fun to be around. Since you've been kind enough to entertain my friends curiosity, It's only right that I--- (Text message should be going off by now) Excuse me. Oh. Wow, uh listen it was nice talking to you ------, but I've really got to go. Too bad you don't have a phone, -------
Her: I do have a phone
You: Nuuuuh uuuuuh
Her: Yes I do! *Probably pulling her phone out to prove it*
You: Well, ----- too bad you don't know your own number
Her: Yes I do!
You: Oh yeah? What is it then, smarty pants?
Her: (If she has tolerated your games so far, she is going to give you her phone number)


THREE DAYS LATER. BETWEEN 6 P.M. and 9 P.M.

Call her.

Her: Hello
You: Hello. It's me -------, from the ------.
Her: Oh, hey! How are you?
You: I'm good. Me and some friends just got back from *say something exciting and adventurous. Bonus points if its true*
Her: Oh, cool! How did that go?
You: Went great. Anyway, I'm calling about business.
Her: What kind of business?
You: Well, ------, like I was saying the other day you like having fun, and I know how to have fun. So, I figured maybe we could go do something fun together
Her: What does that have to do with business
You: Absolutely nothing. But thats in the past. I'm a here and now type of guy. So now, I'm wondering if you would rather have fun Friday night or Saturday night.
Her: Well what did you have in mind?
You: I'll get to that in a second. Really, it depends on which night you'd rather hang out.
Her: (picks a night)
You: Good choice, ------. On (whichever night she picked) night, there is a (something exciting and interesting) going on. It starts at (whenever the event starts). Where do you want me to meet you at?
Her: (Gives a location)
You: Good. I'll see you there.

WHICHEVER NIGHT SHE PICKED

Be ****y/funny, and get a feel for the girl. If you decide you'd like to bang her, slowly implement light kino (touch the small of her back as you go through doors, put your had on her arm when you say something to her that you want her to hear, ect.). At this point, you will get an idea of how she is reacting to your advances, and if she is acting favorably, or even reciprocating, you are in the clear. Anyway, after a while, when you sense that the evening is reaching it's peak and she is having a lot of fun, tell her it's getting late and you have something important to do in the morning. But tell her that you had fun, and wanted to know if we could do it again some time. If she is having a good time, she will tell you yes. Tell her that you've got to look at your calender, because your not sure which day ------(something interesting/deep/whatever) is happening, but that you will give her a call.

At this point, you should have an idea of some of her likes and dislikes. Find something that shed be interested in. A picture. A poem. Whatever, and put it on display in your bedroom. It will pay off in a while.

Wait a few days, call her up, set up another date.

This time, make the date something a little more private. Like a walk or whatever. Talk about the previous date, and see if she doesn't talk about it being fun. This instantly puts a good feeling in her head. Talk about all kinds of things, make observational jokes about your surroundings. Tease her a little bit, and use kino when the vibes are right. If you are doing good, she should reciprocate the kino, and this is your clue that you should kiss her at the end of the night. Make it a good kiss, but don't try to drag it out into some sort of crazy make out session ---- UNLESS SHE TRIES TO. (In that case, you won't need any of the advice beyond this point) Anyway, like the last date, make sure that you are the one who says its getting late. Tell her this time to give YOU a call (a good practice). If she is in to you, she will.

When she does call you....

Set up another date. Evening. Go for a walk again at some point, and go through the same paces as the second date, but with heavier kino. If she welcomed a kiss last time, she is going to be OK with, and hopefully reciprocating things like putting your hand on the small of her back while you walk. Jokes and teasing most of the night, and if you get her somewhere secluded, kiss her again. This time get a feel for things. That means grabbing thighs, kissing neck, and nibbling on earlobes. Squeezing her tight. That sort of thing. Make sure you get this going before it gets too late, and ask her if shes hungry/wants to see a movie/whatever. The main thing is to ask her if she wants to do something that you can accommodate at your place. When she says yes, suggest to go to your place and do that thing.

When you get to your place, have a few drinks, and start doing whatever it was you were going to do. Implement some heavy kino, move on to kissing and groping, and with any luck, you'll be knocking boots in no time flat.


Hope that makes things easier on you
 

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Don't Run before u can walk. Forget about getting laid, just make ur goal to improve. Now also forget about kino or whatever for now 2, Ur goal should b to show more intent...this does not mean "huh huh HI girl.....i think u lookkkkkkk...rrre.aaal gawd 2night" It means do exactlly what ur doing and then say before u leave "hey i am going now, but i want to talk to u again, whats ur number" instead of the hey u wanna b friends line.

Thats all u should focus on at moment. U shudn't b worried about making this the perfect approach, but rather just getting number AND CALLING IT. Then when u do call it don't beat round bush just say hi, maybe bring back bit of memory from ur old convo and just ask her out with in the first 2 minutes. DONE. Once u get 2-3 dates then u can start asking everyone here about escalation.

This is what u should b focusing on
approach>number/instant date>date>Close(kiss, ****)

But ur thinking this
Approach>Close (kiss, ****)

Ur right u can do it like the second one, but dude ur not ready for that just yet and it would b a very big waste of ur time if u were to keep focusing on it. Once u can do the first one very well then u can do the second one. Its like trying to read a very prestiguous book when u can't read in the first place. Actually Let me put in terms u should understand lol. U wudn't go straight to expert on guitar hero would u now?

Once u get dates escalation will come easy to u, u have a dummy to practice on for the whole day.

Like to say well done though, u r coming more closer and closer to ur problem and has u can c from ur more positive responses people c that 2. Its good to c ur also talking to people now more. Because they can c what ur doing wrong and the fact ur starting to realise it and dissuss it is good now.
 
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