really shy, hot, younger chick, who wants an AFC???

[jamescr73]

I met this chick a few weeks ago at a party, but didnt really get to talk to her much. Last weekend we hung out some, and I mentioned to a friend of mine (girl) that i was going to try to get the hookup. Well my friend went and told her i was interested or whatever, and i was kinda pissed cause im man enough to do what i have to do. Anyway, all of a sudden she started hanging out where i was at, and we started chatting. So we talked for awhile, she is really shy, but i got her number. I called her a few days later, we talked, and I told her we were doing dinner friday (today) and that i would let her pay. haha. she said she would have to get back to me on that one, because she had to babysit. Well last night i messaged her a question about a guy friend of mine that also likes her (he told me so), and i think he is trying to c0ckblock me. She ended up inviting me over. So i went to her place last night and we hung out for awhile with her roommate (girl), chatting, watching tv, whatever. Anyway, her roommate is all flirting with me hardcore, but this chick is really shy. Then her phone rings. Shes talking to this dude for like 20 minutes, and I remember him from the first party. Total chump.
So, after i leave, the roommate starts texting me (she never had my number) saying i suck for leaving so soon. We text back and forth for awhile, and she mentions that the girl i want likes dude from the party. Im like wtf? This girl is almost 21, im 27. Shes really shy, and probably fairly unexperienced. I seriously have no experience with a chick in this situation. Id give her a solid HB8.5.
Oh, and while i was sitting there they were texting each other and giggling. One of the messages from the roommate said "I didnt realize how cute he is" or something like that.
Any ideas how to pull her from AFC boy?

 

[The Shocker]

forget her, go after the friend (unless she's ugly)

 

[Nighthawk]

What's AFC about him, and what are his better qualities?

 

[christz]

is the friend ugly or something? i mean.. c'mon man stick and move stick and move!

 

[Circa]

Yeah dude, sounds like you should just hit the room mate. Unless she looks like an orge, what is the problem?

 

[Obsidian]

If you continue to go after the original girl instead of her roommate, you'll have two c0ckblocks to worry about.

 

[Call_Me_Daddy]

Of course sle likes AFCs.

Who else is going to buy her sh!t and take her to expensive restaurants? Not the dude who's fvcking her.

 

[Last Man Standing]

... but this chick is really shy. Then her phone rings. Shes talking to this dude for like 20 minutes, and I remember him from the first party. Total chump.

Any ideas how to pull her from AFC boy?

She is not shy - you are deluding yourself - she just doesn't want you!!!

 

[Obsidian]

Well last night i messaged her a question about a guy friend of mine that also likes her (he told me so), and i think he is trying to c0ckblock me.

Wtf do you mean by that statement? why would you ask her that?

She ended up inviting me over. So i went to her place last night and we hung out for awhile with her roommate (girl), chatting, watching tv, whatever.

A lesson I have learned this past school year is that WOMEN HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT SUGGESTING GET-TOGETHERS. Think of how you might have interacted with a woman before you found this site, failing to utilize logic, leadership, or testosterone -- THAT'S how a woman will deal with you if you let her lead (unless maybe she's an experienced hor).

If a woman invites you over, have a planned activity in mind to do with her once the novelty of the chatter starts to die. If you just go over to a woman's place without having a plan and without making any moves, boredom will result for both of you.

Shes talking to this dude for like 20 minutes, and I remember him from the first party. Total chump.

The moment she started talking to another guy on the phone for longer than about 180 seconds, you should have bailed on her right then. Don't tolerate disrespectful sh!t from girls.

And at the point that you bailed, you should have taken her roommate with you and made out with her elsewhere. As I said, you should have had something in mind to do anyway. As far as you've told us, the roommate is not ugly. If she's ugly, ignore this last part.


Also, you haven't shown us any evidence that this other guy is any more chumpish than yourself.

 

[GloriouslyInsane]

I smell ****-test.

 

[jamescr73]

ok, the roommate is decent, but Id give her like a 6.

What makes dude an afc? Well for one, ive seen him call 4 or 5 times in the last day and a half, and Ive only hung out with them for a few hours total. I have yet to see her call him first. Plus that one week when i met him, he seemed like he forgot to use dryer sheets, cause he was all about the eternal static cling.

Obsidian, how am I going to have an activity planned in mind, when its midnight and I had to get up for work friday morning? I didnt plan on hanging out for long.

 

[Obsidian]

Obsidian, how am I going to have an activity planned in mind, when its midnight and I had to get up for work friday morning? I didnt plan on hanging out for long.

Then why'd you go over there at all? Tell her, "Sorry, I'm busy because I have to work tomorrow and make money. I have a life." Or something along those lines.

If you don't have an activity planned and you go at all, then only plan on staying for about 10 minutes tops. The moment she starts acting bored or starts CONVERSING WITH ANOTHER GUY, leave immediately because you've already stayed and remained inactive too long.

 

[jamescr73]

well i took care of the roommate tonight

guess we'll see what happens when word gets out to the other girls of the house. :yes: might have to take care of them all.

 

[PigAdlemPimp]

Many of the more serious straight shy and sophisticated types of hot babes prefer AFC dudes, many dudes try to be cool dudes all of the time and can't get to fvck these types of hot babes.
You need to be able to portray an AFC type persona at times to allure certain hot babes, then transform into the cool DJ type personality when you want to seduce the more confident popular outgoing types of hot babes.
It should be easy to know by the way that the hot babe is acting what type of personality you should display in order to attain her.

 

[Obsidian]

heresy. No girl wants an AFC. Some girls (a minority) just appreciate gentlemen, whereas others like bad boyz. Even if you're with a type who can appreciate niceness, you still had better damn well not go overboard with it.

 

[Nighthawk]

I still don't see much evidence of his AFCness. Calling five times is rarely a good idea, but it depends what he's saying...

 

[jamescr73]

well from what ive heard from her friends, shes really shy, and doesnt have a lot of liking for the ****y alpha types . Shes still young though, but i cant imagine an AFC keeping her interested forever. Her roommate is all about me. Actually, shes kinda clingy and i told her tonight that she needs to back off a bit. Shes been asking me questions through text messages like "did you like what happened last night?" and crap like that. That shlt weirds me out. Chicks lately have been a dime a dozen. is there something weird in the water?

 

[Obsidian]

well be an non-****y alpha type then. If she's a really shy, feminine woman, then you don't have to be all macho to snag her. Just don't show too much interest, and don't be needy.

I still think she's pretty lame for calling you up and then talking to another guy while you're there, tho. And I still think you need to take charge with women.

 

[jamescr73]

And I still think you need to take charge with women.

saturday night when i saw her I called her on her bs. she got kind of embarassed and didnt say anything about it. I told her roommate that girls are a dime a dozen and that i didnt care. Its not like i was lying.

 

[Vypros]

LOL @ you calling HIM the AFC when he's obviously stealing your girl

Shy girls (if she is TRULY shy) don't operate the same way as other girls. The information on this website and in Seduction material is geared towards HOT girls who think too much of themselves and how to bring them down to your level (throught negs, DHVs, etc.).

Shy girls, on the other hand, are EXTREMELY insecure, so a "neg" won't work on her. ****y and funny won't work on her. What it does with a shy girl is puts you out of her league! Yes, i'm saying that for shy girls you have to tone yourself DOWN a bit to get them.

You see now, why I don't buy into seduction techniques and I put my focus on being YOURSELF, but making YOURSELF more of a MAN and not some ****y, funny idiot?