Really random topic ILLUMINATI

[georgie24]

Bored a fuarkk so i trolled youtube and stumbled across the illuminati

Alot of that crap makes some sense when it comes to a physcological point of view as im a extreme analyst by nature

Im now reconsidering my thoughts on MJ as a pedophiling fruit cake

Jay z is MOST DEF up to something because if you listen to his old stuff he always says " you will understand 20+ years from now" yada yada yada


Some of you guys are entertained by shows like 2 and a half men and jersey shore

My brain needs to snack on a topic of substance for entertainment, and for now the illuminati is it as well as picking up girls/PUA:rockon:

 

[backseatjuan]

Illuminaty is not just pyramid (hirarhy) of men controlling the events, it is also a a pyramid of ideas. Controlling the very basic ideas forces controll on the very complex. If you interested in studying this I suggest you learn from illuminaty themselves rather than hearing it from people who think they know. Yes, information is released, its too extraordinary for sheep to process. http://wordmworld.lege.net/society-science/understanding-illuminati-1

 

[georgie24]

as for 2pac i ca think of two reasons he"s not around

1. they killed him because he knew alot and was definatley uncontrolable so they assasinated him ( usually when a rival gang kills they own the kill, why is his shooter a mystery?)

2. he was secretly staging his own assasination to go into hiding seeing how broad the illuminati"s network is he knew he would never be safe and from his interviews he"s alot smarter the the pompous attention wh0re that he percieves to be

 

[backseatjuan]

lulz, shows how dependant and small is a brain of your average sheep

 

[Deep Dish]

georgie24:
Alot of that crap makes some sense when it comes to a physcological point of view as im a extreme analyst by nature.

In the sense of an external locus of control. With an internal locus of control, people feel in control of their lives and lead their life. But people who don’t feel in control of their life feel life happens to them, that is, life events are dictated by external agencies. Cultures are more superstitious when their people travel out on boats into the deep sea rather than sticking to the safe harbor; baseball players engage in superstitious rituals when at bat, but not when they’re in the outfield where statistics are massively in their favor.

Another factor is dopamine. People who hold superstitious/paranormal beliefs tend to have higher than average levels of dopamine, which causes you to see more patterns and be more creative. Stress is another factor: people see more patterns when they're about to jump out of an airplane.

The human brain is evolutionarily wired to believe in false imaginary patterns, like the Illuminati, because it’s safer to believe a false pattern than to ignore a bonafide threat. To borrow an example, it’s safer to believe the rustling of bushes is a lurking tiger than to think it’s just the wind. Cognitive belief in the Illuminati is historical pareidolia, “the imagined perception of a pattern or meaning where it does not actually exist.”

 

[Bible_Belt]

2pac was killed by a guy he beat up earlier that night (the fight was taped by the hotel security cam). The dispute was over a previous robbery of a friend's jewelry at a Foot Locker. His killer didn't live much longer before he was shot and killed himself. There is no conspiracy, other than 2pac probably trying to get killed in order to define himself as an artist.

UFOs might just be one giant shared hallucination among humankind. The mechanisms of mass consciousness are very poorly understood, and some of the theories as to why so many people believe in stuff like the Illuminati are just as weird as the conspiracy theories themselves.

 

[Upside]

I'm not a UFO nutjob, but there HAS to be at least ONE more planet out in the universe with life on it. Whether that is in out galaxy or not, beings in the stone age or not, I would bet on there being life SOMEWHERE than not. I feel that the existence of UFO's are just an extension of the belief that we want there to be life out there.

The Illuminati to me are what religious people think of God. There has to be a reason, an explanation for economic crisis, murder, ect. There's a "plan" because there has to be one.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I wouldn't call Washington "weird," but he was a pot grower. And not just hemp, he wrote about being too late to pull the male plants one year. The only reason for pulling males is grow seedless bud to smoke.

So yes, he discussed the Illuminati. But he was also probably high.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_history2.shtml

 

[Deep Dish]

PairPlusRoyalFlush:
George Washington discussed it, was he weird? There is a very large leap of logic in your thinking, I would suggest trying to fill it in.

There is a fundamental difference between the times of George Washington and today. The Illuminati existed back then. Today is 2012. Do you see where I’m going with this? Politically subversive groups—secret or not—rise and fall in every time period. There is no compelling, persuasive, convincing reason to think the Illuminati survived beyond its original late 18th century Bavarian context.

Pseudohistory is a pejorative term applied to a type of historical revisionism, often involving sensational claims whose acceptance would require rewriting a significant amount of commonly accepted history, and based on methods that depart from standard historiographical conventions.

...Philosopher Robert Todd Carroll suggests the following criteria for a topic to warrant the term pseudohistory:

• That the work uncritically accepts myths and anecdotal evidence without skepticism.
• That the work has a political, religious, or other ideological agenda.
• That a work is not published in an academic journal or is otherwise not adequately peer reviewed.
• That the evidence for key facts supporting the work's thesis is:
  • selective and ignores contrary evidence or explains it away; or
  • speculative; or
  • controversial; or
  • not correctly or adequately sourced; or
  • interpreted in an unjustifiable way; or
  • given undue weight; or
  • taken out of context; or
  • distorted, either innocently, accidentally, or fraudulently.
• That competing (and simpler) explanations or interpretations for the same set of facts, which have been peer reviewed and have been adequately sourced, have not been addressed.
• That the work relies on one or more conspiracy theories or hidden-hand explanations, when the principle of Occam's razor would recommend a simpler, more prosaic and more plausible explanation of the same fact pattern.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudohistory

Speaking of Robert Todd Caroll, here is his entry on the Illuminati:

http://www.skepdic.com/illuminati.html

 

[Burroughs]

the devil's greatest trick was convincing us he doesn't exist :yes:

 

[FairShake]

I find it hilarious to think that a all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful entity like the Illuminati would waste it's precious resources killing a fvck-up thug like Tupac Shakur, who was in the process of destroying himself from almost the moment he stepped in the spotlight. He promoted the gangster lifestyle which keeps black guys killing black guys (and white people too btw) which was only an added benefit for the Illuminati I'm sure.

The Illuminati is a cool-sounding name for people that existed long ago. Any corruption is pretty much right in your face nowadays.

 

[perseverance]

Doesn't the Illuminati believe that Hitler was a Rothschild agent used in order to help the Jews set up a homeland where the Kingdoms of Judah and Israel once stood?

Doesn't the Illumanti believe that the Rotschild and Rockefeller Dynasties are full of Giant Lizards?

I can't take things like that seriously in all honesty.

 

[Burroughs]

good stuff royal flush

Simply put if in 2012 you cannot mentally fathom how a small group of individuals (5 thousand or so) control every aspect of banking, media, energy, entertainment, politics then you are too stupid to be alive.