"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Really nervous when trying to call girls.

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Any tips how to overcome nervousness before calling girls. I have no problems with social situations etc. just before I call a girl I contemplate calling for at leat 30mins-1hour. It always turns out okay, I am not nervous during the call, I just cannot get the courage to call. In the evenings this tends to be okay, because I'll have a few cigartetts and whiskeys, thus making it easier, but of course then the call itself is not as good. But in the day, I waste hours doing this. Any ideas?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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styleman said:
Any tips how to overcome nervousness before calling girls. I have no problems with social situations etc. just before I call a girl I contemplate calling for at leat 30mins-1hour. It always turns out okay, I am not nervous during the call, I just cannot get the courage to call. In the evenings this tends to be okay, because I'll have a few cigartetts and whiskeys, thus making it easier, but of course then the call itself is not as good. But in the day, I waste hours doing this. Any ideas?

Well, you can call a girl after working out. But tell her you were out running. Working out will calm you down.

And try to remember, she's just a girl.
 

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It is helpful to remember that once you dial the number, you will be forced to talk then and you'll naturally make it up as you go along. It's kinda like the old saying that applies to approaches "move your feet and your lips will follow"; which in this case can be translated to "press the (dial) button and your lips will follow"... or... something... doesn't have the same ring to it though. Oh, "ring".... hah... lame.

Or.. get someone else to dial for you and hand you the phone lol.
 

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I never though anyone had to apply 3 second rule to calling, but it sounds like you need it. You're probably getting inside your head and imaging all kinds of bad stuff. Step outside your body and see yourself as a third person would. Is there really any reason to be afraid?
 

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everywomanshero said:
I never though anyone had to apply 3 second rule to calling, but it sounds like you need it. You're probably getting inside your head and imaging all kinds of bad stuff. Step outside your body and see yourself as a third person would. Is there really any reason to be afraid?
I think it comes down to the fact that she may be doing something else when I call. I think it is also linked to my own mentality, when someone calls to speak to me, I am rarely in the mood to have a conversation; if I've not called someone, I'm preoccupied, I do not sit idle. One could say that I am selfish; I hate to be phoned, love to phone others. When it comes to business calls, I know that I am in a position to say to whoever I am talking to, if you cannot give me your time, good luck to you, whether they are men or women.
Yet, when calling a woman for social reasons, it somehow feels like they have the upper hand. I mean, you ask them out, you ask for there number, and if you are lucky they will reciprocate, some, albeit less, effort. Regardless of what you make of yourself (i.e. working out, nice clothes, hygiene, skincare, culture, manners etc.) the woman still is the one who says, I set the boundaries. You've expressed interest in asking me out, so now I'll decide.
Whilst in business, if you make something of yourself, you set all boundaries.
Sorry to go off on a philosophical jaunt; you're right, I'm overanalyzing. And by the way, what is the 3 second rule?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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What I like to do is if I'm about to call a girl or one of my girl friends, I either have my penis hanging out of my shorts so I can have some dominence when I'm speaking on the phone, or I wank off at the time I'm talking to them and they have no idea im doing it. hahaha!
 

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DasaniWater said:
What I like to do is if I'm about to call a girl or one of my girl friends, I either have my penis hanging out of my shorts so I can have some dominence when I'm speaking on the phone, or I wank off at the time I'm talking to them and they have no idea im doing it. hahaha!
I've got to say, that is quite strange.
 

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What I like to do is if I'm about to call a girl or one of my girl friends, I either have my penis hanging out of my shorts so I can have some dominence when I'm speaking on the phone, or I wank off at the time I'm talking to them and they have no idea im doing it. hahaha!
Idiot. Disregard.

Have an idea as to what conversation topics you want to talk about, and tell a funny story early on. Hearing her laugh and relax will make you relax. Remember, she might be nervous too.
 

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DasaniWater said:
What I like to do is if I'm about to call a girl or one of my girl friends, I either have my penis hanging out of my shorts so I can have some dominence when I'm speaking on the phone, or I wank off at the time I'm talking to them and they have no idea im doing it. hahaha!
This is a funny, yet not realistic, idea.



I still get nervous sometimes, especially if I haven't known the girl long and have only spoke to her when were both merry in a club.

I find that practice makes perfect, like most other aspects of the game.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Badmannaz said:
this happens to me also i get scared to talk to her..but then if we were right next to each other there's no problem
I am not nervous once she answers, just before, and being there in person is also fine for me.
 
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Listen, I am no guru or Pook or anything and I dont need to be.....but if you are nervous to talk with a woman this is saying three things:
1. I have not connected with the woman I am about to call
2. I dont know the value I offer to women
3. Or.....I am an AFC trying too hard.

Always connect with women, understand yourself, and talking with women will not feel like you are in the gauntlet. If you dont connect or understand women or yourself....then it will feel like hell every time.
 

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DasaniWater, one of the few posts that can actually make me LOL.

Yes I agree with the other posters, I used to have this other trouble. Relax, call up other people (like a good female platonic friend) to shoot the **** for a few minutes before you call her. Smile when she picks up and you say the first words, she can hear the smile in your voice.
 
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