"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Leopold said:
She's a 6.5 on my scale. Call me fag or whatever but I have very high standards even tho I'm still a fvcking virgin.
That's probably why you're still a virgin.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I think she's attractive enough, for now....

You know what the dealbreaker is for me though? That lazy, generic and featureless profile. Yeah, she's a 20 year old chick on PoF and she isn't expected or required to show any insight or humour, or even use apostrophes and capital letters. That doesn't make me any less repulsed.

"Im a hairstylist, I love to go out to the clubs, im big into dancing.im a hard worker and i have alot of goals for myself. I am thick and I am not ashamed of it. I love to laugh and just have a good time. I am not afraid to be myself i am very outgoing"

I am always astounded that girls on opposite sides of the world manage to generate identical but meaningless blather, on their own!

1. Mentions having goals but doesn't even hint at what they might be.

2. Token "Real women have curves and if you don't like that then fvck off". Thank you Rikki Lake.

3. I love to laugh and just have a good time. Amazing insight there.

4. I'm not afraid to be myself. Dangerously close to being "I tell it like it is and some people don't like that". May as well break out the Marilyn Monroe quote while you're there.

The kicker though, is that there's no attempt to try and distinguish herself from the thousands of other PoF clones. They're harmless enough I suppose, but basically parasites.

OP, what was the e-mail conversation like? Were there signs of intelligent life?
 

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Leopold said:
She's a 6.5 on my scale. Call me fag or whatever but I have very high standards even tho I'm still a fvcking virgin.
Lol call her what you want. You know every dude on this board would take that chick to pound town given the right circumstances.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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the girl in the OP is more than ****able. she is just borderline overweight.

this is NOT borderline. lmao... OP, be thankful your desired ***** doesn't look anything that the hyperlinked women.
 

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Heh, didn't notice the profile... She said "I" and "me" 12 times in those few sentences that were posted above. Yeah, she'd be just great to be around. "I like. I want. I'm not. I did. I'm fine. I'm strong. I have. I am. Me, myself, my." She's probably dumb as **** on top of it, but thinks she's smart. Probably disliked by everyone with a pulse. Annoying, whiney, screachy, naggy, prissy, conceited... I hate girls like that. Too many among the pretty crowd. No suprise she likes to go to clubs, drinks, and is a hairstylist. Those *****es are hella materialistic and snobby.

Shotgun-reload-blast-dead.
 

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I don't understand how some of you guys like these super skinny anorexic looking chicks. To each their own I guess. I won't bother with skinny girls unless they've got some seriously great @$$ or tits. Better if they come with both :)
 

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Leopold said:
She's a 6.5 on my scale.
Funny you say that, it's exactly what I was thinking, she's a 6.5.
For me, that's doable, because basically I consider 6's and ups doable.

She could be higher if she'd lose some weight. A 20 year old girl shouldn't be that heavy, her metabolism is at its peak.

I don't like the super skinny types either, usually. I'll accept a few more pounds in exchange for an ample bosom and a generous behind. Something to grab onto. A little pooch maybe, but no fat rolls or cottage cheese.
Maureen O'Hara is a good example (but I doubt anybody here remembers who that is lol).
 

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Yeah she could lose some weight definitely, I'd still bang her though. I'd say this girl is a 7 on my personal rating (I prefer curvy sorta thick women). Not fat with rolls like previous posters mentioned though.

She sorta has the same body as one of the girls mentioned in my field reports, just this girl's legs are a bit more thick.

I think you should bang this chick. If she gives you a hard on, put it in her pvssy dude!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Yeah fat sloppy chicks with rolls of fat hanging off her are the worse. How can anyone screw those hogs?
 

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Do not do it. Chubby girls love giving *******s but you better watch out they might pull a (Mike Tyson) and bite that sh*t off and eat it like a Oscar Meyer Weiner. It is not worth it. Once you bang a chubby girl you feel good for about 3 minutes than you regret it from there after.
 

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WOW!!! Chill down down with the artillery everybody!! LOL XD

I said she's 6.5 on my book... nothing to be worked up about. Heck!! I wish I even had a chick like to get me laid. It was my opinion after all... no need to be mad if you dont have high standards as well.

Oh and LOL with that Meme! ROLF!!! Talk about hater! But no... I'm pretty dam sexy... and I'm a great guy (there's always room for improvement tho).
 

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I'd be more concered about how she's going to look 10 years from now than how she looks there.
Well you shouldn't be cause if you are you are playing it wrong.

These chics are not for long term relationships/marriage. If they're chubby while they're young 95% chance they will never get fit and will only turn into whales later on in life. Almost a guarantee they will turn into whales once they get married and pop out the first kid.

The one from the pic might be doable now but whoever the poor guy is that marries here will be making a big mistake. She'll be ruined to the point of no return after her first kid or 2.

There's a saying that says "strike while the iron is hot" but don't forget "hit em while they're still doable" who cares what they will look like in 10 years :D
I was always under the impression that cameras, mirrors and video recorders all added around 10lbs to the average person?

Even if she was 10lbs heavier in appearance than on the internet, that wouldn't put me off.

I'd be straight onto her like a fly to sh*t.
Yeah but that was a chic from pof. It's almost a given she's fatter than what the picture suggest
 

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zekko said:
Funny you say that, it's exactly what I was thinking, she's a 6.5.
For me, that's doable, because basically I consider 6's and ups doable.

She could be higher if she'd lose some weight. A 20 year old girl shouldn't be that heavy, her metabolism is at its peak.

I don't like the super skinny types either, usually. I'll accept a few more pounds in exchange for an ample bosom and a generous behind. Something to grab onto. A little pooch maybe, but no fat rolls or cottage cheese.
Maureen O'Hara is a good example (but I doubt anybody here remembers who that is lol).
EXACTLY!!! I think you and I share same opinions!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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C-quenced said:
I don't understand how some of you guys like these super skinny anorexic looking chicks. To each their own I guess. I won't bother with skinny girls unless they've got some seriously great @$$ or tits. Better if they come with both :)
They did have both... These girls weren't anorexic or skeletal at all. They were short and well-figured with gorgeous faces. Too bad their personalities were as appealing as dried up dog****.

They did have meat on them, like in the thighs and ass. I don't like pure skinny, flat-bodied chicks, or thick ones. Somewhere inbetween, I guess.
 

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They did have meat on them, like in the thighs and ass. I don't like pure skinny, flat-bodied chicks, or thick ones. Somewhere inbetween, I guess.
bla bla bla i know exactly what you mean brother. Let's cut through this here is the perfect body

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz9wx_h58UU

btw she's going to be mine! ;)
 

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see i work out about 6 days a week and have since i was 21 almost 22 years old. I am in GREAT shape and I look GREAT with my shirt off.

I do not fvck women that have bigger waists than I have. I just don't. If you can't put on my blue jeans than you might as well just not bother checking for my calls. It's not what I am attracted to and because I work out, that's what I demand in return. w ant woman who are in shape. I like petite, leggy women. I'm not an ass or tit man I'm a leg (feet lol) guy. I like a woman that looks great in a ****tail dress with pumps on. that's what gets my **** hard.

you can be proud of being thick all you want but I'm not talking to you.

But you know what the rub is with people liek this, and it actually burns me up talking about it, because I get talked to by woman like that all the time. especially when I was single. One of them was so funny i actually went out on a date with for ****s and giggles. But these women will tell you all the time, how they are proud of being bigger and how they are "real women" and having a little meat on their bones should be a good thing..

then why are you talking to me and not the guy who has been trying to get you to return his calls that's 5'10 and 205 and wears a size 38?

see these *****es want their cake and eat it too and most men eat that **** up. F that.


at least skinny women are honest with themselves. they keep themselves hot and skinny because that's what they want. fat women want the same thing but instead of working for it, they try to trick or manipulate you into giving them an equal chance.
 

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f283000 said:
bla bla bla i know exactly what you mean brother. Let's cut through this here is the perfect body

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz9wx_h58UU

btw she's going to be mine! ;)
Perfect! But cut her height down... I went after short chicks. Like, 5'5. They were also blonde, white, and crazy. And young. Come to think of it, I dated girls - not women. Blegh.
 

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Perfect! But cut her height down...
She's wearing heels or did you miss that? ;)

She illustrates what I think most men want with a woman. A big feminine butt you can grab on to, a slim waist, decent boobs, nice sexy face. I mean what else could a man want?

Men don't want fat and if they do it has to be in the right place. She has no fat anywhere except where it has to be.
at least skinny women are honest with themselves. they keep themselves hot and skinny because that's what they want. fat women want the same thing but instead of working for it, they try to trick or manipulate you into giving them an equal chance.
This is true. Due to facebook/online dating sites even fat chicks are being fed a full supply of ego boost by desperate men.

The "nice fat chick attitude" is becoming a thing of the past. In the old days you would wish hotties would have a fat girl's attitude but now fat girls are getting the attitude of all the wannabe facebook divas out there.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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