"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Most of you, probably get very nervous around women (many times It happens to me). I bet some of you will get nervous even around ugly women. For those who can be cool with ugly girls,but not with "attractive" ones, realize this guys, 90% of women are ugly if you take a good look at their faces. 90% of women are ugly without make up and out of shape.

Next time you get all nervous with an "8" take a second good look and examine her face, and she probably isnt´all that... So there you have it, another ugly chick you are talking too, but now you can relax since you realized she´s ugly... you will have to bang her anyway, cause biology says so :) . Think your doing her a favour.

Also don´t get all worried if are in your middle 30´s and you aren´t married, it´s probably good for you, women do become monstruous creatures as they age, saggy skin, breasts, terrible teeth, weird hair with strange colours they put there.

They are tricking you into think they are hot, and that they don´t need your attention. Most of them are NOT hot, and live for YOUR attention. remember that.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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You're pretty much describing the holy grail to dating and female interaction.

Thats is, being able to treat them ALL the same. Fat ones, ugly ones, hot ones, cute ones, etc. If you can treat them all the same (and I don't think many people can) you should be gold.
 

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you have something there.. but it's flawed. just like how girls SHOULD be. your never going to be the perfect guy. there isn't one.

you don't need to be ANYTHING other then yourself.
 

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Along the OP's lines, I have a perfect way to bring the looks a a woman into perspective. I just imagine what she would look like as a man. In other words, what would she look like with short hair and no makeup?

That instantly de-beautifies them, but for me it doesn't get creepy. It just serves to illustrate for me that they're just like us without their female acoutraments to help them along. I know you would at first think that this would destroy her image in your eyes, but for me it really doesn't. I just remain vaguely aware that she has nothing over me whatsoever, yet I can still enjoy her "prettiness" without being adversely affected by it.
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Exactly Atom, these mind tricks certainly help.

What would also help, is to visit sosuave just once in a while. It doesn´t help when you are talking to them, and you remember yourself, that you are on an internet forum to pickup chicks.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
Along the OP's lines, I have a perfect way to bring the looks a a woman into perspective. I just imagain what she would look like as a man. In other words, what would she look like with short hair and no makeup?

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haha, i do the same exact thing. Its something that I recently started doing to try to "put them in proper context" and it seems to work. It takes practice though.
 

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I just imagine that she is human like me.

Just because her face might have turned out a little more beautiful than mine doesn't mean that she still doesn't fart,crap, and or have major personality flaws that are unattractive.

Hot women are still just women. They have struggle with bra size and have their friend come once a month just like an ugly woman...
 

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I'm glad I've never been nervous around attractive women. My brother is like this and it can be one of the most crippling things as it suggests insecurity and lack of confidence.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I actually use my measure of nervousness around a girl to gauge my attraction to a her.

I think it's a good thing if I'm a bit nervous around a girl - it mean's she's really attractive and I'm pushing my comfort boundaries, not just going for whatever comes across my path.
 

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JdelaSilviera said:
Most of you, probably get very nervous around women (many times It happens to me).

Yeah I still do if I'm sober lol.

I bet some of you will get nervous even around ugly women.

Yes, because even ugly ones aren't necessarily friendly.

For those who can be cool with ugly girls,but not with "attractive" ones, realize this guys, 90% of women are ugly if you take a good look at their faces. 90% of women are ugly without make up and out of shape.

Exactly. I know a model girl. During a typical day, she's ok, but nothing special. But with the right makeup, clothes, etc., she's hot.

Next time you get all nervous with an "8" take a second good look and examine her face, and she probably isnt´all that...

I found that out. I pulled an 8 and even naked, she wasn't THAT great. After getting all flush during foreplay, she looked even worse lol.

So there you have it, another ugly chick you are talking too, but now you can relax since you realized she´s ugly... you will have to bang her anyway, cause biology says so :) . Think your doing her a favour.

Exactly. Nothing like "taking one for the team" lol. :rock:

Also don´t get all worried if are in your middle 30´s and you aren´t married, it´s probably good for you, women do become monstruous creatures as they age, saggy skin, breasts, terrible teeth, weird hair with strange colours they put there.

That makes me feel better since I'm in that age range and single. I am keeping in shape while they get bigger. Yeah I'm balding, but I can shave my head, women can't. So yes, you are absolutely correct.

They are tricking you into think they are hot, and that they don´t need your attention. Most of them are NOT hot, and live for YOUR attention. remember that.


Great post. Thanks.
 

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squirrels said:
I've read that article. A little bit of nervousness/attraction can help motivate you and boost your energy levels. But I don't think it's good to be "weak in the knees" or too nervous. That's when you come off as try hard or unnatural. I've blown things bad a few times when I've felt like that around women.

I tend to lean toward the "treat her like all the other girls" approach. If there's attraction there, you can act on it.

The whole "getting nervous around attractive women" is at the heart of the "be yourself" advice, IMO. If you get too nervous around pretty girls then you don't act naturally - you're not "being yourself". Meanwhile, you're totally relaxed around the girls you're not attracted to, you're totallly natural, and much more likely to attract.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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A trick I used is to realize she could have easily been born a dude. Instant pedestal destroyer.
 

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not often discussed but they can be nervous too, maybe even moreso.
 

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JD57 said:
The trouble with that is that if you act real excited and happy to see her, that can easily lead to "pedestalizing" if not neediness. A lot of stuff on here suggests one needs to be subdued. I guess it's a balance.
It can...if you let it...if you don't have the self-confidence to be cool when things aren't going your way. Neediness, though, is an indication of something lacking in your OWN life.

It's OK to be happy to see a girl...as long as you don't get sad and depressed when she leaves. :p
 

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pdx1138 said:
not often discussed but they can be nervous too, maybe even moreso.
Yeah man the other night when I went to a concert and gave the girl my phone to type her number in I could see her SHAKING! All I could think was "whoa...!" haha. Definitely a huge confidence boost if I ever needed one.
 

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They are very few women whom retain their stunning looks without makeup.
Well applied makeup can add a point or two or even three to a womens looks easily.

Id say its more like 99% of women are not that great looking, some just know how to show off what assets they have better than others.

And yeah, they got to sit on the Thomas Crapper and choke out a smelly darkie just like you and me.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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