"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Has anyone considered having on line meetings in real time? Using something like Yahoo!Chat and actually chat in text and voice in real time.

Things covered could include discussing specific real world examples of DJ principles, feedback on boot camps, ideas for expanding some of the principles and related ideas.

A suggestion is to have major meeting once or twice a month and minor, topic specific meeting weekly given by proficient DJ volunteers. We would have to keep it to specific topics to keep the ramblings and sidetracks that would not benefit the masses.

Any thoughts?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Even though crazykid claims to have started the DJ Chat (he initiated the chat, that's all), I'm the one who actually proposed this very idea, and it was quickly absorbed. We were using AOL Chat through AIM/AOLC.

Though the idea that I proposed was weekly meetings with a different topic for each week which is more sensible than per monthly chats. However, most of the time people talked about whatever. The last time I participated was during a chat with the topic of vacation spots for "playtime" if you know what I mean, and it was pretty successful for about 10 minutes. :eek:

These kind of chats are more easily accomplished in IRC rather than AIM/AOLC.
 

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im up for doing the chatroom thing but i feel there should be a certain strictness for staying on topic and staying focused on DJ things (and that doesnt include car's )

i was thinking of possibly putting a chat together with those who post somewhat frequently and those that give good advice at that

the truth is that i just dont have the time these days to put something like that together

but you could count on me to chat if you started it up
 

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It's been a couple of years since I last put together organized chat sessions. I'm willing to help put something together as long as there is an interest AND there are willing and knowledgeable people available to assist.

So if there's enough interest AND volunteers to regularly assist (probably on a rotating basis), I will throw together some ideas for the framework of a session.
 

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There's a chatroom on StarChat called #DonJuan where a couple of us are regulars. It's not voice, but sometimes we get some good convo going in there.

Go to http://www.starchat.net/chat/index.php and join channel #DonJuan (or you can use an IRC client like mIRC if you want)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by squirrels
There's a chatroom on StarChat called #DonJuan where a couple of us are regulars. It's not voice, but sometimes we get some good convo going in there.

Go to http://www.starchat.net/chat/index.php and join channel #DonJuan (or you can use an IRC client like mIRC if you want)
Do the discussions have a format or scheduled topics?
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Do the discussions have a format or scheduled topics?
Nicholas Hill occasionally tries to host a scheduled/themed chat.

Lately I haven't seen any plans for one.
 

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It's been a month since I first posted this suggestion so I'm updating the thread to see if any more people are interested.

I'd like to set up a scheduled chat that could take place online via Yahoo!Messenger. I'd create a meeting room where we could discuss specific topics during each session. The cool thing about it is that we could use both text and voice.

So what I'd like to know is if there are any of you who would thing a getting together online periodically to discuss specific topics would be beneficial. Also, would anyone like to speak on specific topics, I do not plan on running the entire show.

For any of you who would like to try out Yahoo's chat and meeting software, you can find it at http://messenger.yahoo.com .
 

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I use the IRC chat occasionally.
 

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im up for it fransisco but have you checked out the irc chat yet?

also look at my suggestions from above
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Yeah, I played around on IRC (DalNet, Efnet, etc.) long ago. I'm not sure if everyone is willing to jump through the configuration hoops of using IRC. Maybe that's just my perception since I just use mIrc as a client.

Yahoo!Messenger has a much lower learning curve plus it allows you to look for women that are online that you can mack to while setting in the seminars.

Think about it, you could possibly get real time help while making a play on an online woman.

Let me know what topics you'd like to lend a hand.
 

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well right now id like to get into some LTR topics.

such as how to keep the guard up, keep it interesting, figuring out the right way to find the right girl.

my mind is wondering right now but i do have a yahoo account so ill check the chatting there
 

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I like that idea. We should add a chat option to this site.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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I'm bumping this thread up to find out if there is any more interest in doing real time voice/text chats to go over DJ theories.

I've helped a few guys individually but I think that pooling our knowledge in a real-time medium will help a lot of people.
 

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there is the IRC channel.... check my signature...

HEY!!!

give me a week and after that I'll be able to go there like every day.

Funny thing. When I stopped visiting there for a month it was dead after that.. :p

Evil ego! shut the fuuck up! *shoots*


anyways...
THE OFFICAL DJ-CHAT CAN AND WILL BE RESURRECTED!!!, ok? ;)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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If done, it is best to go through Yahoo messenger - much easier to use and more available to everyone than any other method
 
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