"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Reading "The Game" by Neil Straus aka Style

thedeparted

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So I realize this is not exactly a new book, but I'm just getting around to it. About 3/4 of the way through. Had some various thoughts to share in no particular order. Post your responses.

- Style claims to have started as a total AFC. But that is typical dating guru backstory. And he was also writing for NY Times and Rolling Stone. Is the AFC part believable?

- Mystery seems like a manic/depressive. If so, that could account for a lot of his pickup. Mania can make someone very attractive. Give them fearless powers. Depression takes it all away. I'm thinking that any guy who walks around in 6" platform shoes, top hat, goggles, etc. is gonna get play, b/c women will think he's some kind of celebrity, esp. in LA. I'm not sure that is real game, or real useful. Thoughts?

- Saw style on The View. Volume off. Just watching body language. His frequent smiles seemed like appeasement. And he looked down a lot, signaling weakness. Frankly, I think it was a case of four alpha biatches and a beta-male PUA wannabe. Am I being too harsh?

- Haven't seen Style's lays, but a couple of YouTube's and the girls he approached on the street were not that hot.

- He name drops. Courtney Love (you can have her, ugh). Britney. Paris. Some playgirl of the year or something. Is this for real? I wonder.

- Tyler Durden and Ross Jeffries get repeatedly slammed.

- There seem to be a lot of foreign types. Mystery is Canadian. A lot of the women are Russian or something. In my experience it's easier to get these girls. They have fewer options. They might want a green card. I almost wouldn't call it a pickup to get a girl on a visa.

Still reading.... but anyone else's thoughts on The Game would be interesting to hear.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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most of these dating gurus have as much credibility as a psychologist/therapist which means as much as a street hobo.
 

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thedeparted said:
- Saw style on The View. Volume off. Just watching body language. His frequent smiles seemed like appeasement. And he looked down a lot, signaling weakness. Frankly, I think it was a case of four alpha biatches and a beta-male PUA wannabe. Am I being too harsh?
You are just being too analytical. I just watched it. Volume on. His voice was clear, he conveys emotions, and he socializes well. I don't see anything wrong with it.
 

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Okay, I'll use the volume next time. But another thing I noted in the book: he gets AMOG'd by ANDY ****. If you get blown out of a set by a pencil-necked raging bisexual with a poodle hair-do are you really a PUA?

Also, I think that Courtney Love moves into their mansion in Hollywood and owns them. A real DJ would've screened out and rejected the domineering alpha wench, right? Or no?
 

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Listened to it. His voice is weird. And he talks fast. Not alpha. An alpha voice would be lower and slower.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I think Style probably did consider himself a total AFC when he started, but from what I can gather he has probably always been a pretty interesting guy, and ya his career is a "DHV" as mystery would call it even if he choses to believe otherwise. THe main thing wrong with style was probably that style believed there was something wrong with style and needed pua crap to feel empowered and bold. He has always been very unattractive in appearance and he sounds like a very feminine gay man, but I can see where some women would be attracted to his personality and whit once they got to know him.... even highly attractive women. As far as style being with hot chicks, different hot chicks are attracted to different people. I've dated 4 or 5 exotic dancers now and I've been shot down by fatties... It's just hard to predict based solely on attractiveness.

Take away Mystery's outfits and such and there's still a guy with game under there somewhere. Read his ASF archive and you can get a sense of this. He is a whitty guy, and very creative. As far as being the world's greatest pua, I'm not too sure about that, but I think he's definitely got game and came up through the ranks the hard way.


Tyler Durden and Ross Jefferies don't seem to be PUAs. I think they are both really creepy guys from what I can configure, and I wouldn't hang out with either or them or really want to be seen with them unless they dropped a huge pile of cash on me.
 

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overall I am glad I read The Game, I have a lot more insight now, and feel a lot more at ease when I think of a cold approach pickup.
 

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If you don't like the man's teachings don't read the book.

Hearing anyone else's thoughts really won't help anything. Everyone will have a different viewpoint and you seem rather fixed on yours. Just go out, try some stuff, experiment, but most of all:

have a good time. :D
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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...And he looked down a lot, signaling weakness....
jesus people look into this sh*t too much

And btw, it was a crap book. The first half was interesting, but the second half played out like a bad episode of Real World, and he's a mediocre writer.
 

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lol @ departed being MIA

dude sound's like one of those females that is sueprifical as hell....

kinda suspect if you asks me
 

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im also 3/4 of the way through the book and tyler durden could gargle my d1ck that prick, also i was looking through some of the people in the book and who was actually here, found posts by papa ;o is there anyone else who used this forum? like mystery or herbal
 
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