"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Convesation techniques.......watch these ones i used....

Hi guys heres an extract from a convo on the net with a girl i know which i met at school a year below me. Its my first attempt at a convo after reading al thos convo post to me i seem a bit al over the place and i tried using alot of ****y & funny. So if you guys could give me your thoughts and criticisms.......


BOB.. says:
oh and your the poster girl for normal
LIB says:
i dont get it
BOB.. says:
oh thats a smart joke
BOB.. says:
only smart people understand
LIB says:
lol oh ok then
BOB.. says:
listen to my theory
BOB.. says:
why would i want the be normal
BOB.. says:
if im normal im the same as eveyone
BOB.. says:
and if i am the same as eveyone i would be boring
BOB.. says:
but if i am abnormal im diffrent makes me intresting
BOB.. says:
and not boring
LIB says:
theres a difference between being interesting and not being normal
LIB says:
see
LIB says:
ur weird in a bad way
LIB says:
but interesting ppl are better than normal ppl
BOB.. says:
im wierd in a bad way
BOB.. says:
what is it about wierd people that turns u on
LIB says:
umm their noses
BOB.. says:
i am a very intrting person if i do say so my self
BOB.. says:
*intresting
LIB says:
ohh serious thats cool
LIB says:
so
LIB says:
...
BOB.. says:
so im big and ur not
BOB.. says:
how was your day jalima
BOB.. says:
im calling u jalima from know on
LIB says:
lolllllllll jalima?
LIB says:
roflllll why
BoReDDDDDDD.. says:
i dont know
BoReDDDDDDD.. says:
cause im a sickcunt
LIB says:
lollllllll oki..i was joking about u being weird btw
BOB.. says:
why do u ask so many questions
BOB.. says:
hahah i dunt care call me wierd
LIB says:
rofllllll nah but ur not weird
LIB says:
like ur iinteresting
LIB says:
but not weird
BOB.. says:
are u trying to say sorry for calling me wierd
BOB.. says:
its ok i accept ur appolgy
BOB.. says:
were friends again
LIB says:
looooool oikk
BOB.. says:
so anyway how was your day jalima
BOB.. says:
u didnt answer
LIB says:
loool umm it was okkk
LIB says:
kik
LIB says:
lol
LIB says:
how was urs?
BOB.. says:
i was busy
BOB.. says:
what u do?
LIB says:
really doin wat
LIB says:
nuthin went school
BOB says:
stuff
BOB.. says:
i was taking care of things
BOB.. says:
confidential mafia business dont ask to many questions ok
LIB says:
lollllllll
BOB.. says:
school must have been exciting
LIB says:
yea it was ok
LIB says:
lol
BOB.. says:
yeh i bet
BOB.. says:
yawn cough school is boring
BOB.. says:
what r u doing when u egt out of school
BOB.. says:
what are your hopes and dreams for the future
LIB says:
loool
BOB.. says:
?
LIB says:
ummmm
LIB says:
im not sure
LIB says:
is that ok if i dont no wat i wanna do yet
BOB.. says:
with ur size ud make a good horse jokey or u could be one of santas elfs
LIB says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
BOB.. says:
of course its ok
BOB.. says:
why wouldnt it be ok jalima?
LIB says:
lmao yesss
BOB.. says:
so u got no idea what ur going to do?
LIB says:
yea u helped me
LIB says:
im gonna be a horse person
BOB.. says:
hahah shush stop ur making think about girls riding horses
BOB.. says:
and its turning me on

Ok there goes

Note: i cahnged the nick names for privacy purposes
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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nicely done

"what is it about weird people that turns you on?" - classical

you should have added "i knew you were kinky like that ;)"
 

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Thanks bro good to get that feed back from a Senior Don Jaun....Thanks for the tip to
 
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I think your convo was lame and abstract without any defining points or humor - this is from a 41 year old man's perspective.

Did you ever ask for her phone number and get a date??

Why not? Quit wasting time online and talk to her in person or on the phone!! Quit trying to impress her with your wit - that is not your mission!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Don't feel so pressured to make every line some kind of joke. Just make normal conversation, and when you get the opportunity to whip out a good line, go for it. No offense, but if I was the girl I would've laughed maybe once through all that.
 

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Ok well one thing is im not appealing to your humour im talking to a 16 year old girl so thats why its not humerous to you guys also some of the jokes you got to be Aussie to understand....but thanks for the tips il try joke around less....Also look at some of the neg hits and other things are they any good?........peutrican guy i do have her fone number and i dont plan on asking her on a date im just using her to test out some of these things ok.... even thought she looks like jessica alba and is the finest girl in my area im not intrested in her that way she is to nice and to fridget........
 

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yeah, try to chill out with jokes a little bit. i used to do the same thing, but then i realized that it only works for chicks under 16-17 y/o, and they get tired of it very fast. and just one other observation...you type too much too often man...look how many times in your convo you have 3 or more lines in a row...it makes what you type seem trivial. try to compress those 3-4 lines into complete sentences.
 
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Re: Convesation techniques.......watch these ones i used....

Originally posted by Black_Italian



BOB.. says:
oh and your the poster girl for normal
LIB says:
i dont get it
BOB.. says:
oh thats a smart joke
BOB.. says:
only smart people understand
LIB says:
lol oh ok then
BOB.. says:
listen to my theory
BOB.. says:
why would i want the be normal
BOB.. says:
if im normal im the same as eveyone
BOB.. says:
and if i am the same as eveyone i would be boring
BOB.. says:
but if i am abnormal im diffrent makes me intresting
BOB.. says:
and not boring
LIB says:
theres a difference between being interesting and not being normal
LIB says:
see
LIB says:
ur weird in a bad way
LIB says:
but interesting ppl are better than normal ppl
BOB.. says:
im wierd in a bad way
BOB.. says:
what is it about wierd people that turns u on
LIB says:
umm their noses
BOB.. says:
i am a very intrting person if i do say so my self
BOB.. says:
*intresting
LIB says:
ohh serious thats cool
LIB says:
so
LIB says:

1. Boring assed convo.
2. Your not taking it anywhere
3. Your spending too much time talking about YOU
4. You need to spend more time talking about HER and finding out her life story and what she is into so you can get the keys to get into her mind.




Originally posted by Black_Italian

...
BOB.. says:
so im big and ur not
BOB.. says:
how was your day jalima
BOB.. says:
im calling u jalima from know on
LIB says:
lolllllllll jalima?
LIB says:
roflllll why
BoReDDDDDDD.. says:
i dont know
BoReDDDDDDD.. says:
cause im a sickcunt
LIB says:
lollllllll oki..i was joking about u being weird btw
BOB.. says:
why do u ask so many questions
BOB.. says:
hahah i dunt care call me wierd
LIB says:
rofllllll nah but ur not weird
LIB says:
like ur iinteresting
LIB says:
but not weird
BOB.. says:
are u trying to say sorry for calling me wierd
BOB.. says:
its ok i accept ur appolgy
BOB.. says:
were friends again
LIB says:
looooool oikk
BOB.. says:
so anyway how was your day jalima
BOB.. says:
u didnt answer
LIB says:
loool umm it was okkk
LIB says:
kik
LIB says:
lol
1. You have no control over this girl.
2. She is calling you wierd for a reason. I suspect that your trying the techniques from this site and it's not getting recieved properly.
3. Never let a girl get away with calling you wierd. And then to spend or waste that time talking about how YOU are different and Interesting...Yawn!!!! Sorry Kid.
4. And why did you try to re-name her but not give her a reason????? When I re-named one of my girls from Tina to Tinitz I told her cause she was a ditzy. You offered nothing except trying to be funny but it was recieved by her or myself.


Originally posted by Black_Italian

LIB says:
how was urs?
BOB.. says:
i was busy
BOB.. says:
what u do?
LIB says:
really doin wat
LIB says:
nuthin went school
BOB says:
stuff
BOB.. says:
i was taking care of things
BOB.. says:
confidential mafia business dont ask to many questions ok
LIB says:
lollllllll
BOB.. says:
school must have been exciting
LIB says:
yea it was ok
LIB says:
lol
BOB.. says:
yeh i bet
BOB.. says:
yawn cough school is boring
BOB.. says:
what r u doing when u egt out of school
BOB.. says:
what are your hopes and dreams for the future
LIB says:
loool
BOB.. says:
?
LIB says:
ummmm
LIB says:
im not sure
LIB says:
is that ok if i dont no wat i wanna do yet
BOB.. says:
with ur size ud make a good horse jokey or u could be one of santas elfs
LIB says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
BOB.. says:
of course its ok
BOB.. says:
why wouldnt it be ok jalima?
LIB says:
lmao yesss
BOB.. says:
so u got no idea what ur going to do?
LIB says:
yea u helped me
LIB says:
im gonna be a horse person
BOB.. says:
hahah shush stop ur making think about girls riding horses
BOB.. says:
and its turning me on

Ok there goes

Note: i cahnged the nick names for privacy purposes
1. Why are you asking a 16 year old kid about their plans? I think you saw that phrase on this site and at 16, you can see the answer...too much pressure.

2. You gotta remember you control the outcome. You don't have to bend and clown yourself for a girl. Just stay in control and lead her through the convo. Get her info. Then get a date...then get the panties...3 simple steps of which you didn't do any of them.

But next time.
 

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Please, don't post anymore useless sh!t such as chatlogs. The real things that matter are what happen in person, when you can tell from body language, etc.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I am actually dumber for having read that.

I'm going to go gouge my eyes out now.
 

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OK thanks for all the tips........but this is a bad example i DONT wanna get into this girls panties shes to young for me and also shes to nice....i always talk to her like this and njoke around....I THINK i might post a convo with some other chick i know that i talk to normaly ... it was a bad idea posting this thanks anyway guys..
 

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Originally posted by b's nuts
helpless. has anyone else noticed a lot of these IM logs from aussies?
Oh yeh and the reason for that is in spate of the latest fatal Kangaroo and Koala attacks in which 17 people have died the government has issued and official curfew so we are not allowed out of the house after 8 pm so our only means of communication are through the internet and the phone.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Originally posted by Black_Italian
Oh yeh and the reason for that is in spate of the latest fatal Kangaroo and Koala attacks in which 17 people have died the government has issued and official curfew so we are not allowed out of the house after 8 pm so our only means of communication are through the internet and the phone.
Hahahahahaha, good one mate - the government instituted martial law because of Kangaroo and kaola attacks!!:D Are they roaming around the cities devouring babies? What the heck is going on over there?
 

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wow... all I can say is newbie... you have at least 5 years ahead before you learn how to convo right. I'll let you know your mistakes tomorrow. I'm going to sleep now but you both are AFCs. She seems needy and you seem well just boring...
 

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Btw, do you live in illinois and used to play half-life?
 

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Why do americans hate IM so much, its practically a way of life over here, i suppose its becasue its less rainy so they can actually hear each other outside without shouting.

But IM/ conversations are hard to judge, because there it depends on how you normally treat people and how they know you.

But try not to post too much IM on the site as its easy to do, copy + paste and therefore lots of people do it and therefore lots of people get pissed off.

Anyways good luck. I found some of that was quite funny (but then im only just 17), but on IM i try and talk more about abstract things or about them.
 

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Yeh the kangaroo attack are getting quite bad 19 deaths so far and know the platypuses have got 1 death its because of the recent rains have caused them to over breed and know there population has reached epedemic proprtions and they have moved into the cities its al over the news....................Hey and im not a AFC im not a Don Jaun but im definetly not frustrated and usualy i converse diffrently with chiks this girl is just diffrent it was a bad example. AND NO I NEVER USE TO LIVE IN AMERICA AND USE TO PLAY HALF-LIFE
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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