Re-Initiating Contact with girl I smooched at a party

[gravityeyelids]

Okay so this keeps happening to me, and its bugging me. I need some advice. I can't set up day 2's or close for sh*t recently.

This pattern emerges...i go out and party, run some really solid game, kino, get them loving me and laughing at my jokes, teasing them, making out, push-pull, etc. Super high interest level when partying with them, but then when i try to folllow up i get nothing or i get flakes.

This is an example. We'll call her Ellie. I go to this house party, and i roll in there with like 4 girls and a few guys. Not gonna lie, i look like the man, because i roll in there with cool people...i'm on point and relaxed, i know like a bunch of people at the place and start meeting the people i dont know. I'm the fun, social guy thats introducing people to each other. At one point i see my buddy talking to these two girls, and i just go up and put my hand on his shoulder and say something in passing like "hey man i love you" or " hey its really good to see you" or something like that.

I start to turn away and then he kind of pulls me back into the conversation and says i should meet these girls. Introduces me to Ellie and her friend and BAM! She;s immediately giving me these eyes like she digs me. I'm EXTREMELY relaxed and confident and this girl is beautiful. I start flirting heavily with her and we kind of break away from her friend and my friend, and i semi-isolate her, by leaning myself up against the wall and she follows.

I mean i was completely on point, just teasing her and making her laugh and making her qualify to me. I say i have to get back to my friends and i'll talk to her in a bit, but then i kiss her and she loves it and starts biting my lip a little, and i keep pulling away saying "stop it! i really have to go!" and shes loving it and we start biting each others lips as we're kissing and teasing each other about it...Finally I do walk away and go socialize for a good while. I bump into her again and we start kissing more and shes saying stuff like "are you trying to get me turned on?" and shes loving it. I start talking to her friends and meeting them and they seem to like me.

So at some point i realize i forgot to get her number haha so i just tell her to put my number in her phone and text it to me. The following messages are what was said via text AT the party:

Her: Hey its Ellie (1:04am)
Me: Hey loser (1:04am)
Her: Lip biting ***** (1:05am)
Me: I won though (1:21am)

At this point most of my friends had left and the party was dying down and i didnt want to seem needy by hanging around there JUST to talk to her more, so i told her i was taking offf. I said something like "You're welcome to walk back with me and watch a movie if you promise to behave yourself" as a last effort to push for the ONS (I live like a block away). She said "I would, but i've got to walk my friend back." Kiss her, then leave.

Im back at my place and she texts me:

Her: Where r u? (1:51am)
Me: My place at [apartment name] watching a movie (1:52am)
Her: Where's that (1:53am)
Me: Corner of [street] and [street] (1:53am)
Her: Come to the [party house] (1:58am)
Me: Im not going out anymore tonight. But you're welcome to join me for this movie....if you promise you're not psycho... (2:02am)

No response, which is whatever. I mean it would have been cool if she came but i didnt expect her to.

So the next day i send her:

Me: So my lip feels fine. Someone didn't do their job properly... (3:28pm)
Her: Haha i guess so! (8:11pm)
Me: Add me on the snapchat (9:16pm)
Her: Just did (9:32pm)

Went out that night and went to this 90's party and drunk texted her (i know stupid, sue me) this:

Me: 90's party **** yea

Didnt get back to me, which is whatever. I waited two days and then sent:

Me: I don't think we should do this anymore...sometimes you make me feel like a piece of meat... (2:36pm)

She didnt get back to me at all after that...This was like a week ago. I know this line may seem cringe-worthy, but its callback humor because at the party we were touching each other's backs or whatever and i was joking that "i'm not that type of girl" and "i'm not easy" and just bullsh*tting it and she was loving it.

I realize this point is very long, but point being....what part of my game do i need to work on? Because im running really solid game on these girls when i go out, and i nearly always get the makeout, number, and a high IL. But i try to hit them up afterwards and nothing pans out. I realize my text game probably isnt A-Level, but i think it's decently solid. I cant figure out what im doing wrong. For the day 2, i typically suggest grabbing coffee at a place near my apartment.

Feedback?

 

[Dgwizdal]

Promise your not a psycho - next time be a little more subtle with that type of line. Maybe something along the lines of "if you won't be too bad of an Influence on me..." Or " if you promise not to keep me up too late"

Inviting her over after you have already left the party is too big of a step and transition for her hamster on first encounter with high backfire probablility (which what happened) Far easier to get her back to your crib if you slip the idea under her radar during the interaction at the party. Keep it simple stupid. Could've cut the night off on the high note dhv that the party is over for you and you'll hit her up when u feel like it. Even better: no response to her "where are you" text at all..

Other than that you're push pull and cf are spot on with what I use. Suggestion to use in your regimine: calling her "trouble" and blaming her for being a bad influence. Works every time.

Text game is ok too - you've got the right frame. Next time give it a couple days after you acknowledge you have eachothers numbers and such. Usually I will wait til the night before I'm tryin to see her again to bust her balls abit (usually the next weekend if she hasn't reached out by then) even tho the bible says not to contact thurs, fri, sat - hitting her up too soon is far worse.

Alot of time I will send a simple winky face and nothing more to reestablish contact after a number close or just in general w chicks. It is hamster super food and a good way to gauge interest or manipulate a convo based on her response.

I made the mistake of winky facing an ex who I haven't spoken to in 6 months during a late night binge drinking sesh two weeks ago. Every other day after that she hit me up until I agreed to go out with her. She's a nut - but the drunkin conversation at the end of the night before I ripped her pants off was about how she knew that simple winky face meant so much more to her than just saying hey and (rationalizing) that I had a much deeper purpose behind it bahahaha. Hamster crack in any situation.

 

[jurry]

I think you were money until the second invitation for her to come over, where it seems like you crossed over from being this mysterious sociable guy to the guy just desperate to get laid. A DJ would have left the party and gone home and banged some other chick, probably not even returned her text for a day or two.

 

[gravityeyelids]

Promise your not a psycho - next time be a little more subtle with that type of line. Maybe something along the lines of "if you won't be too bad of an Influence on me..." Or " if you promise not to keep me up too late"

Inviting her over after you have already left the party is too big of a step and transition for her hamster on first encounter with high backfire probablility (which what happened) Far easier to get her back to your crib if you slip the idea under her radar during the interaction at the party. Keep it simple stupid. Could've cut the night off on the high note dhv that the party is over for you and you'll hit her up when u feel like it. Even better: no response to her "where are you" text at all..

Other than that you're push pull and cf are spot on with what I use. Suggestion to use in your regimine: calling her "trouble" and blaming her for being a bad influence. Works every time.

Text game is ok too - you've got the right frame. Next time give it a couple days after you acknowledge you have eachothers numbers and such. Usually I will wait til the night before I'm tryin to see her again to bust her balls abit (usually the next weekend if she hasn't reached out by then) even tho the bible says not to contact thurs, fri, sat - hitting her up too soon is far worse.

Alot of time I will send a simple winky face and nothing more to reestablish contact after a number close or just in general w chicks. It is hamster super food and a good way to gauge interest or manipulate a convo based on her response.

I made the mistake of winky facing an ex who I haven't spoken to in 6 months during a late night binge drinking sesh two weeks ago. Every other day after that she hit me up until I agreed to go out with her. She's a nut - but the drunkin conversation at the end of the night before I ripped her pants off was about how she knew that simple winky face meant so much more to her than just saying hey and (rationalizing) that I had a much deeper purpose behind it bahahaha. Hamster crack in any situation.

Yea i feel ya. Thanks for the feedback. One thing though...i used to always wait a few days to follow up when i meet a girl at a party....however, the problem with that is she was intoxicated when she met you so if you wait too long, the iron may not be hot anymore and you're just "some random i made out with at a party" regardless of how tight your game is.

Yea and i agree that i messed it up with the second invitation. But, my drunk mind was thinking...this girl is sending me "where are you?" and "where's that at?" texts at 2:00am, drunk, to some guy that just turned her on at a party....she totally wants the D.

Is it a terrible idea to send a hail mary text to her and try to re-establish contact? She's hot and the semester is over next week, so why not? She doesnt have any real mutual friends of mine..

 

[gravityeyelids]

I think you were money until the second invitation for her to come over, where it seems like you crossed over from being this mysterious sociable guy to the guy just desperate to get laid. A DJ would have left the party and gone home and banged some other chick, probably not even returned her text for a day or two.

I agree. Hah i was desperate, drunk, and horny and it showed through. Live and learn

 

[jurry]

Hm yea thats true, maybe she was hoping you'd come back and pick her up.. thats a tough one. Seems like a lost cause at this point, but I guess that's what hail mary's are for

 

[Dgwizdal]

Yea i feel ya. Thanks for the feedback. One thing though...i used to always wait a few days to follow up when i meet a girl at a party....however, the problem with that is she was intoxicated when she met you so if you wait too long, the iron may not be hot anymore and you're just "some random i made out with at a party" regardless of how tight your game is.

Yea and i agree that i messed it up with the second invitation. But, my drunk mind was thinking...this girl is sending me "where are you?" and "where's that at?" texts at 2:00am, drunk, to some guy that just turned her on at a party....she totally wants the D.

Is it a terrible idea to send a hail mary text to her and try to re-establish contact? She's hot and the semester is over next week, so why not? She doesnt have any real mutual friends of mine..

Next day quick banter after the number close and then wait 4-5 days.

If you're ego can take the very possibility of no response than sure, why not? But the result will prob be the same. Dont waste this last week chasin a girl - find somethin new or hit up some of your other bops who may be dtf.

Whatever you do - its just a live and learn experience that you misrepresented your true DJ self and ultimately their loss.