"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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pyros

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Hiya.

I went to a club some nigths ago.
I talked to this girl for a while. She told me she was from a different city, she said she lived in France for a year, she said where she worked etc etc
We have a nice light conversation for around 10-15 mins. We danced a bit too.

When I was about to leave, I talked to her again and I said 'well, I gotta go now, see you around' she said: 'yeah, good-bye Pyros'.

I'd like you to rate her IL because I asked her some questions, she gave me extra information, we talked but she did not ask me anything, anything personal.
On one hand she gave me extra personal information that I did not ask for, but on the other hand she did not ask me any questions but my name. They say that if you listen to a girl talking about herself she would 'like' you, but if she does not ask me anything personal I understand she has an IL of 50% max, not so high.

Is it ok just to talk about her in the begining? dont know, during the first 30-60 mins of meeting her?

Some weeks ago, I made out with a girl that was friend's of a friend of mine, and the same thing happened.
We all went out one evening. I talked to ehr for an hour or more, and we were basically talking about her, with just tiny little comments about me or my life, I mean, she was not asking me personal questions, I was just giving little pieces of my life while talking about hers.
Some days after that, we talked again and after another hour or so, she started to ask me personal questions. By the end of the evening we made out, so we did next day etc.

Is this common? I mean, when the girl is talking mainly about herself, you're asking her questions and stuff, but she doesnt really ask you about your life, at least for the first hour or so of your interaction.



Comments?

P.S.
I say this because in 'The Game' there is one story where one guy meets a girl in a party. He asks her her name, what she does, if she is friends with the host etc
This girl replies, they talk, but she doesnt really ask him any personal questions. So The Game suggests that the girl has low IL, and that the proper thing to do it to leave her and go find other chick.
Do you agree?



Thanks.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Iceberg

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Espi said:
Pyros in my opinion, you've gotta avoid thinking about a woman's interest level. Just put yourself out there man and invite her out. You'll know for yourself just how interested she is.

What he said.

I live in a world with two types of women: The ones who are sleeping with me and the ones who aren't.

You can't go around measuring IL based on conversations and looks and signals and whatever. You get the number. You ask them out. You go for the makeout. You go for the sex. SHE goes for the relationship. And that's how the story goes.
 

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Iceberg said:
You can't go around measuring IL based on conversations and looks and signals and whatever. You get the number. You ask them out. You go for the makeout. You go for the sex. SHE goes for the relationship. And that's how the story goes.
Pure gold. That should be tattooed at the very top of this forum for all to see!
 

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This has happened to me before just like that. I figure the girls a little nervous, the second time we hung out I could tell she was a little embarrassed about not asking me a single question about me and she made sure to that time. She ended up being psycho crazy, but i'll save that story for another thread...lol
 

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The game can be hard and made harder when you start overthinking it when the slightest thing happens. If you want to know her interest at that stage, provoke her somehow: grind, make out, phone #, etc. Then you will know.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Your conversations built comfort and rapport with girls; which is important.

But ATTRACTION needs to be present concurrently for the girl's interest to be peaked towards seeing you as a possible mate.

In both of the initial scenarios you told us about, there is comfort but not much attraction.

Dancing together is good; but what type of dancing? Grinding? If so that's good since its purely sexual. But if you were simply dancing by each other, that's not anything to consider significant.

With the friend you made out with; you did a better job of creating attraction and building on the comfort the 2nd time you saw her.

Since you didn't get the girl's # from the club or create much attraction, I'd say her interest was luke warm at best.

Learn how to FLIRT and then keep your good listening, conversation-leading ability and you will see much better results.






PIMP
 

DonGorgon

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Espi said:
Pyros in my opinion, you've gotta avoid thinking about a woman's interest level. Just put yourself out there man and invite her out. You'll know for yourself just how interested she is.
yeah these women find you attractive physically but your personality is so dry that you get no where... you need to get their numbers and simply invite them to you place to watch a movie..lolol
 

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Iceberg said:
What he said.

I live in a world with two types of women: The ones who are sleeping with me and the ones who aren't.

You can't go around measuring IL based on conversations and looks and signals and whatever. You get the number. You ask them out. You go for the makeout. You go for the sex. SHE goes for the relationship. And that's how the story goes.
I beg to differ. If I could sit on the sidelines and watch a guy hitting on 100 girls, I could tell you every single time whether or not he will get a number.

Sometimes it is better to know when to quit rather than wait for a rejection. After all, the time you spent building towards a rejection could have been spent talking to a girl who actually likes you and getting a number. A girl who only answers your questions bluntly and doesn't help carry the conversation is a HUGE red flag as far as attraction goes.

I have NEVER had success or personally seen another guy have success with a girl when this happens (unless they were drunk, which is another matter).
 
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