Rate the HB I failed miserably with.

[easun]

Apparently all women are sluts? AKA Rollo's idea about the myth of the quality girl?

 

[Jair213]

Reminds me of my x. ***** had fu.cked over 10 guys by her senior year in hslol

 

[easun]

BTW, not trying to brag here.

Ironically, I'm nearly 100% sure the reason she offered the no-strings sex after the 2nd date (which I did not pick up on until several months later) was because on the first two dates, I was basically super AFC (or not?), meaning I didn't kiss her, touch her, or show any romantic interest in her whatsoever. And I am thinking that she thought I just wasn't interested in her romantically (ha!) Although I did joke with her about having sex right there. So it's funny how that must have worked in my favor.

But still, any guys here gone that route? Because I haven't. And based on what I've read over the years (but not yet internalized), it's better to go that route (even if you want a relationship).

 

[Bumsniff]

Yes, believe it or not, she has slept with a lot of guys (as I later found out). If I were to guess, it's 20-30+. Lots of one night stands. (I got access to her email one day...) That really shocked the hell out of me (and led to me becoming majorly insecure).

And what the hell does her sleeping with 20-30+ guys have to do with your self confidence? Did she sleep with them when you were together? Even IF she did that's her issue.

I don't know where you live but that girl is at MOST a 6 in looks. Now you obviously are emotionally invested in her for what reason? Hell I'd be happy as a pig in sh1t to be rid of her. I could understand a girl who's been in relationships but over 30 guys? Would you be proud to look at your kids if you had them with her knowing mommy's banged over 30 guys? Fvck that.

 

[easun]

Her sleeping with a lot of guys affected my confidence in the past (it doesn't now). However, I still miss the relationship (or probably just the sex/attachment/feelings). Whatever.

As for whether I'd be proud if my kids' mother banged 30 guys, I don't know. It's not something to be proud of, but is it something to be ashamed of either? Again, I don't know. In the past, I would have definitely been ashamed about it. But I am still in the Matrix, you know? The rational side of me says that if she has self-control and has no STDs, then maybe it isn't a problem?

 

[Mike32ct]

Solid 7. Maybe 7.5 with the right outfit. Very cute.

 

[the_stig]

She looks like the innocent type that would get your guard down, only to end up cheating or branch swinging. Maybe I'm just jaded because she reminds me of girls I've known that were hardcore players, but it's the "good girl" persona which allows a lot of girls behave so scandalously, so well.

 

[easun]

del

 

[Marvin Gaye]

Slammin' honey

LOL who's the nerd of the left????


Yeah she's slammin' OP

 

[Robert28]

she's hot in my opinion. sure she's a little on the bony side but i'd take a girl with a pretty face and not much body over a girl with a hot body and a face that gives you the shivers when they turn around. like others have said, i think you got caught up in her "I'm so sweet and innocent" appearence. happens to all of us, hell it still catches me off guard to this day sometimes. you visualize her in an aprin making brownies and lemonade while living in a cute little house with a white picket fence waiting on you to come home from work, when the truth of the matter is shes probably done more slvtty things then you can wrap your mind around. you built her up in your mind only to find out that shes just like every other girl basically and that let you down. maybe you were in love with what you wanted her to be and were blind to what she really was. as floyd25 said, trust no one. think of it like this. you know those people who have lions, tigers, exotic pets like that? you hear the same story, they raised it from a cub, fed it a bottle, it slept in the bed with them for years, it was their pet. then oneday it turned on them and bit their head off or mauled them to death. they knew it was a wild animal but they let their guard down and stopped treating it like a wild animal and it came back to bit them in the ass...literally. same with women, you just have to not get caught up into them too fast, know that even the most sweet appearing girls have a past and will play the same mind games that a total b!tch will play.

 

[easun]

like others have said, i think you got caught up in her "I'm so sweet and innocent" appearence. happens to all of us, hell it still catches me off guard to this day sometimes. you visualize her in an aprin making brownies and lemonade while living in a cute little house with a white picket fence waiting on you to come home from work, when the truth of the matter is shes probably done more slvtty things then you can wrap your mind around. you built her up in your mind only to find out that shes just like every other girl basically and that let you down. maybe you were in love with what you wanted her to be and were blind to what she really was.

Pretty much it.

(as others here have said in similar ways)

 

[Bumsniff]

she's hot in my opinion. sure she's a little on the bony side but i'd take a girl with a pretty face and not much body over a girl with a hot body and a face that gives you the shivers when they turn around. like others have said, i think you got caught up in her "I'm so sweet and innocent" appearence. happens to all of us, hell it still catches me off guard to this day sometimes. you visualize her in an aprin making brownies and lemonade while living in a cute little house with a white picket fence waiting on you to come home from work, when the truth of the matter is shes probably done more slvtty things then you can wrap your mind around. you built her up in your mind only to find out that shes just like every other girl basically and that let you down. maybe you were in love with what you wanted her to be and were blind to what she really was. as floyd25 said, trust no one. think of it like this. you know those people who have lions, tigers, exotic pets like that? you hear the same story, they raised it from a cub, fed it a bottle, it slept in the bed with them for years, it was their pet. then oneday it turned on them and bit their head off or mauled them to death. they knew it was a wild animal but they let their guard down and stopped treating it like a wild animal and it came back to bit them in the ass...literally. same with women, you just have to not get caught up into them too fast, know that even the most sweet appearing girls have a past and will play the same mind games that a total b!tch will play.

True story. +1 rep. (If I can figure out how to rep posters..)

 

[ezio]

The way i see it OP has a case of oneitis for a girl who banged 20-30+ guys. i don't know abt you but i would never try to wife a girl like that even if she were HB10. i'm not saying i want to marry a virgin but truth is i don't fancy a girl who has been round the block like three times or as Ludacris said "you can't change a h* into a housewife"

 

[ezio]

The way i see it OP has a case of oneitis for a girl who banged 20-30+ guys. i don't know abt you but i would never try to wife a girl like that even if she were HB10. i'm not saying i want to marry a virgin but truth is i don't fancy a girl who has been round the block like three times and slept with every tom, **** (pun fully intended) and harry. as Ludacris said "you can't change a h* into a housewife"

 

[Naughty Ninja]

So O.P thinks he's 'failed miserably' with said chick?

There are no failures in life. IF you make them learning experiences and grow from them. If you see yourself as a 'failure'. Then a failure you'll be.

 

[McMotherLover]

She's a 6.5 maybe a 7. Cute girl nothing special. Maybe she just knew what you liked in bed and you felt a 'connection'? Don't worry, she knows how to make us all feel that way!

 

[Groovy]

https://www.google.com/search?q=5htp
I heard this could work for depression\anger. Not sure tho I never tried it.

 

[JoelyBoy]

She's not glamour model material, but she looks like one of those sweet girls that bring out the inner "nice guy" and AFC in most of us.

With the more obvious, busty, slvtty types, it's easy to treat them like sex objects and stay on top of our game, but it just doesn't feel right with girls like this and it's been a failing point for me many many times.

yeah this is so true - she has one of those cute faces that you just fall in love with, but hey, imagine she were a dude, if you got treated like that by one of your buddies, would you still treat him cool?

 

[Young Stallion]

She should be rated an 8 as compared to most girls you see on a day to day basis. Some dudes though will rate her a 6 though because they are comparing her to something that they wont come accross. If that doesnt make sense then well screw it.

The dude looks like your typical nice AFC who a girl eventually settles down for after she finishes playing the rounds. BTW I would suspect most girls would rate him a 6 in looks so I am thinking he was good settling material, nice guy, good stable job and adores her.

I read this thread after looking at the pic and it didnt suprise me one bit. Easun is in the wrong for thinking she is a slutty girl. She isnt, all girls are like that and all us men would be like that if we could get that many partners.

Fact is she is attractive and like all women she has gone through the circle of relationships....from going from what gets her all hot and bothered...the badboys of her past....to now doing what she feels is the socially acceptable thing, settling down with the man of mommy and daddies dreams.

 

[evansblue]

P.S. - Listen, I'll be honest with you guys. I sympathize with the OP. I see a lot of similarities between him and myself. Just from the few words he's posted, I can tell you I was in the same boat. It just struck a chord with me.

It's pretty devastating knowing the girl you had oneitis for has banged 20 to 30 guys. That makes it so much worse. Hell, the girl I had oneitis for only banged maybe 4 or 5 guys? I don't even know. My point is, it's not a good feeling regardless. It makes you think that there's something wrong with you. The good news - there isn't. The bottom line was she wasn't interested, period. It wasn't the way you approached, it wasn't what you said. She wasn't feeling your vibe, and that's that. The planets could have been aligned directly behind each other and things wouldn't have worked out.

A lot of guys build these things up in their mind and try to analyze where they went wrong. The cold hard truth is the girl probably wasn't interested before you opened up your mouth. But as a defense mechanism, you tell yourself you said the wrong thing, or your posture wasn't correct, or you weren't C&F enough, etc. etc. It's your ego getting the best of you.

It's a lesson I've learned the hard way. Usually when it comes to women (in my experience), more times than not you didn't screw it up with your game. The girl flat out just didn't want to hook up. Maybe she had a close boyfriend. Maybe she was engaged, or a lesbian. And maybe she just thought you were a weirdo. It really doesn't matter.

A key ingredient of being a player is realizing that not every girl is going to be receptive, even if initially she appears to be. It's said a lot around here, but I really don't think it sinks in to most guys. It took me about 4 years to figure this out. As obvious as it may seem.

Back in 2005, I had severe oneitis for a girl. I mean, it was borderline unhealthy. I had obsessive thoughts. I kept replaying things over and over in my mind what I could have done differently. I'm not kidding what I say this - I was practically going nuts thinking about this girl and contemplating all the different scenarios in my mind to try and get get her back.

I thought there was something severely wrong with me to the point I was curious to what a psychiatrist's explanation would have been. In actuality, I didn't need to go to a shrink. Deep down I knew exactly what the issue was - It was a deep seated insecurity. My ego was ballooned so high into fooling myself that the girl was interested, regardless if she was, or not.

This is why it was such a let down when the rejection took place. That's why it hits you like a ton of bricks. Because in your mind, your narcissism will not let it go. It won't accept it. You have to get her back. Not necessarily for sexual gratification or because you want to date her - but because you have a delusional fallacy that didn't exist, and you're desperately trying to fulfill it to soothe your own desires. And that's dangerous territory.

I'll tell you something right now - I wouldn't be the player I am today if it wasn't for that oneitis. I won't kid you to say it was something I got over quickly, because it wasn't. It took many, many years. However, I've experienced oneitis once... and once only. I learned my lesson, took notes, and moved on. I hope you do as well.

I feel sorry for the guys that experience oneitis more than once. These are the guys that can't get over their ego, fall into the same repetitive traps and refuse to learn their lesson. They just can't put their ego aside and choose instead to dwell on self pity and negativity.

It's too hard for them to accept the fact that they're not going to net every girl. Once you understand this, and I mean truly grasp that, the road will be much, much easier. I'm not saying it's going to be the yellow brick road, but if you can drop the ego (and that's exactly what the problem is), you have a shot at achieving amazing results.

Believe it or not, guys who are bad with women have a much more inflated sense of self worth than a player - this is why they're afraid of approaching and rejection. They're easily hurt. They're sheltered. Rejection is too much of a blow on their manhood and they have a warped sense of reality.

I say all of this unfortunately... from personal experience.

My friend once told me "It's not the destination, it's the journey."

I'm a player... because I love the game. Nothing's guaranteed. And I'm okay with that. Are you?