"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Rate my date- advice needed!

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Hey guys, im new to the forum and game and still fall into the AFC category (although im working on it).

Its about this chick i like (probably a 6 or 7) who is friends with my sister and i have known for like 4 years. I knew she had liked me for ages so we went on a couple of dates two summers ago but we both went back to college and i stopped texting her, i know she was hurt by this since she has told other friends she had hoped for more. Since then she hasnt had any bf's according to my sister.

We are both back in the same town now after finishing college so i thought i would text he to ask her to the movies. She replied she was busy for a week but then suggested an alternative date and so i said cool. She told my sister that she wasnt sure if it was a date (i didnt find this out till after we went).

Anyway, we went last night and i noticed she was laughing a lot (seemed nervous) at my jokes and as things got going she was very talkative. Problem is that i didnt touch her at all during the date (although i know i should have keno escalated). I dropped her off at her house and said "thanks for the evening, we should hang out more". She said "yeh that would be cool but im busy for another week so maybe after that".
Then i went in to kiss her but i think she wasnt really looking, then she realised what i was doing and turned back for a kiss on the cheek- but i went for the lips. We kissed for like 1 second and she got out of the car. It was a bit awkward to be honest.

So basically i texted her the next day saying thanks for the evening and let me know if you want to meet up again.

Im wondering what i should have done differently and how to play it if she doesnt respond (its been 2 days since i text her). Really like her but dont want to be desperate or get oneitis.

Thanks guys- all advice appreciated as im trying to improve things.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Next time look at her softly, put your hand on her neck and stroke her cheek with your thumb once to keep her attention then go in and gently kiss her...
 

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jay219 said:
Hey guys, im new to the forum and game and still fall into the AFC category (although im working on it).

Welcome. It is now RAFC (Recovering AFC) Let's get down to business.

jay219 said:
Problem is that i didnt touch her at all during the date (although i know i should have keno escalated).
I like the way you acknowledged this as a problem.
It is "kino" not "keno". Hehehe :trouble:

And why wouldn't you?! 5 hours is way too much not to have kinoed. This is my problem with actual dinner dates, it is way too formal and spacey. Get inclined with fun, mobile dates. Even if, there's always an excuse to kino...

eg.

while walking down a lane, have her walk outside towards the road, then pull her in switching sides and say something in the lines "It would be better if I'm the one one who gets hit, I'd prefer that to having to listen to you cry" or "hey, take your position! Lemme be the one to die here".... This even sets two you up for some teasing and laughing like "look at how sweet you look, bet you never been hit by a mere bicycle" etc.

Removing something from her face (keep a hair strand in you pocket even if you have to:D Kidding)... then accuse her '' babe, your hair is falling out, maybe your even older than I thought''. Or some food crumb. Or cleaning up her make-up smear.

If she gets naughty or challenging or sorts. Hit her sideways with your body a little (works when she's closer to a gutter), then pull her back. Then remind her of how easy you can kill her and nobody would find out.

If you two are kickin' it well. Lift her and have her sit on something high. Where you can look at her eye to eye and talk. Tell her "she feels too soft".

SO so so many instances.... Use your arms to guide her back while moving thru' a door.

Back Pats.

Pushing her gently away.

Holding hands.

Trying to scatter her expensive 'hair-do'.

The thing with kino is that, it has to be called for. Not one girl would would deem it weird if it seemed normal. This is I suggest the immediate teases, it takes away the unnecessary emphasis.

Remember not to be nervous about it. Let the touch flow. No need to look for approval.

If she calls a notice to it. Then be quick to playfully fire back!.... "Oh, so my touch got you thinking uhn? You're so so corrupt!"

Fucckin' have fun, it's just a date! A fun guy with good body language (not a clown/court-jester) = Fucckable sexy male.

You get the drill brah ? Just let the touch flow.


jay219 said:
I dropped her off at her house and said "thanks for the evening, we should hang out more". She said "yeh that would be cool but im busy for another week so maybe after that".
Look mehn, I do have problems with that. What the hhell are you thankin' her for?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the date went well, then it was courtesy of YOU (In few cases, you both)! If it went well, at this point, you should be pointing out to her how she should mail you your "thank-you present" for feeding her a wonderful night.

Only if it's in the likes of....
HB 11: Thank you Coochieman, you really made my night.
Coochieman: Thank you too HB11, you allowed me make your night.
..... Then a "thanks" is cool.

"we should hang out more".......... Don't let me start with this. Just know this tends to stink of desperation.


jay219 said:
Then i went in to kiss her but i think she wasnt really looking, then she realised what i was doing and turned back for a kiss on the cheek- but i went for the lips. We kissed for like 1 second and she got out of the car. It was a bit awkward to be honest.
Thank God you did something I won't down-right criticize. Nothing good or bad per say. At least you went for the "I don't wanna be a just-friend button". Cool.

jay219 said:
So basically i texted her the next day saying thanks for the evening and let me know if you want to meet up again.
:box: :box: :box: :box: :box: :box: :box:
You just had to! Didn't you?

jay219 said:
I'm wondering what i should have done differently and how to play it if she doesnt respond (its been 2 days since i text her). Really like her but dont want to be desperate or get oneitis.
jay219 said:
done differently
If given this chance again, I know you would do things differently.

jay219 said:
doesnt respond (its been 2 days since i text her)
Cannot blame her for not responding. Why would she respond to a chump? There are Don-Juans, Naturals, PUAs, AMOGs, celebs, Rich-broes etc. out there. Why would she?

Don't be text-bugging her now. Give it time. Call her the Alpha way sometime in the future if she doesn't.


jay219 said:
Really like her
STFU and chill out. Work towards "SHE REALLY LIKES YOU".

jay219 said:
desperate
Refer to ''Really like her'', ''we should hang out more'' and ''let me know if you want to meet up again''.

jay219 said:
Refer to desperate. + no spinning of plates. Remember: Stay spinning, stay winning.

jay219 said:
Thanks guys- all advice appreciated as im trying to improve things.
Don't even ''thank'' us. Hate the word ''thanks'' for now.:)
You would improve overtime. Amen.
GO DJ.
 
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