Rant: I'm done with girls.

[ElStud]

I'm confident, I got no approach anxiety and I can approach any random woman and have a decent conversation. But for some reason I just don't get chicks and am starting to believe I never will. No matter how confident I go up to some sets, it just doesn't go well. I think the main reason for this, is because when I talk to women I'm myself.

I'm seriously starting to think a lot of women my age, just don't want a guy who's confident with being himself around women. They want that fantasy; the badboy who uses and abuses them. I'm done. How does a nice, confident dude like me not have success with women? It's bizarre.

Anyway, yes, I'm done. I've just accepted that I'll never get laid, because I'm actually myself when I talk to women. They just don't want a real guy. They want some fantasy badboy, who's going to lie, use, abuse and impregnate them. So I guess the only place I'll care about women from now, is porn.

I'm done trying to approach women, I'm done trying to seduce women, I'm done trying to get women. Even if I do see a girl I want, it's a 50% chance that she'll be either a ***** or just boring, and I just don't think it's worth it. It's really hard to find a chick who's hot and interesting at the same time.

If these girls don't want a guy who gives a **** about them, fine. Let them end up pregnant with 5 kids, by some loser who "hit & ran" on her. I see it like, if women don't know what they're missing, then fine. I can't do anything about that. I'm confident and I can talk to women well and for some chicks that's just not enough.

I'm done with them.

 

[RSanders219]

Well, those don't really seem like the words of a master don juan right there!

 

[mikeyb]

Oh boy...he's coming out of the closet

 

[ElStud]

Well, those don't really seem like the words of a master don juan right there!

You're right, I'm not a master Don Juan. I don't desire to be a Master Don Juan. See, I actually want to be able to get women by being me. I don't want to have to use all these petty tricks, routines and stuff to get women. That's just silly.

But I guess it works better than being genuine.

 

[Groovy]

One day you will realize that girls prefer jerks to NICE GUYS... But they prefer DON JUANS to jerks. This has been said a million times before, but I get the impression you don't understand! If I were to guess, I'd say it's obvious as hell that you're being a nice guy not a dj.

Edit: I just saw your last post.

Of course you can be yourself and get woman. What the heck? You don't have to morph into a bad boy and not be yourself to get girls. Morph into a DJ. But NEVER be FAKE. Oh man, do I really must say this? If I have to, I will, no problem. But that is all over the boards! But it's ok really. I just am sad because you could have known this years ago if you were paying attention and thinking about the great posts other guys made so far.

You have to like yourself and be happy with who you are, develop confidence in yourself. If you do that you will be much more attractive then a jerk with no self esteem (I think that's the "bad boy" you're describing, who isn't really a role model, or the guy who you want to be), or a guy who memorized plenty of DJ techniques... If you're not getting girls, you DON'T have TRUE confidence \ self esteem. Girls LOVE it when a guy likes and stands up for himself.

Btw girls and awesome.

If you're not attracting girls it's because you "don't have your **** together", as people beautifully say. Think about it. That's all I'm going to say now. Oh, and GL.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

This is a development milestone for you.

Now that you are done with women, you should find real and worthy things to fill that void in your mind. Whether it be your current profession, finding a new one, starting a business, learning how to invest, writing a book, going to the gym, whatever...you will find your happiness and self-worth is directly linked to the extent to which you live with purpose. And any of these purposes are far more worthy (and profitable) than chasing tail.

And I will absotively, posolutely guarantee you that when you find more worthy callings for your attention, and live according to the purposes thereof, in time you will find the tail chasing you instead. It has been true for many; you too can join their ranks.

It's not that you're done with girls, you are done worrying about them. And it is within this paradigm shift that you will sew the seeds of your eventual success.

 

[ElStud]

One day you will realize that girls prefer jerks to NICE GUYS... But they prefer DON JUANS to jerks. This has been said a million times before, but I get the impression you don't understand! If I were to guess, I'd say it's obvious as hell that you're being a nice guy not a dj.

Maybe, but that's just my nature. Sue me for actually CARING about a chick. Sue me for actually just trying to get to GENUINELY know a chick. Chicks don't want that. They want a guy to come up with some fake ass line and "neg" her and ****.

I mean, I've occasionally met a few cool chicks, is even hung out with them. But the majority of chicks are either boring or just don't want a real guy. I bet my success with SKYROCKET if I used all these PUA lines and tactics. The problem? That's just not me.

I'm just gonna stop wasting my time, on chicks who don't want me for who I am. I KNOW who I am. I'm a confident, smart, nice, funny guy, who would give her all the respect in the world, if I felt she deserved it. It's like, why waste your time on chicks who don't want you for you? It's a waste of time.

My time would better be spent, studying, programming, playing my guitar and other things. Maybe it's just chicks in my age group.

 

[FairShake]

PLENTY of girls want nice guys. Plenty of cute, smart, and NICE girls want nice guys. Whatever's holding you back I guarantee it's NOT that you're too nice. That's a fallacy people come up with to martyr themselves on the cross of failure. Why do girls say they don't want you? If you're talking to so many you must catch their vibes.

 

[SamTheHobit]

Op im in the same situation and feel the same way you do about girls, just know your not alone.

 

[women haze]

ElStud?...lol Moar like ElDud
Am I Rite?

 

[Iceberg]

You're right, I'm not a master Don Juan. I don't desire to be a Master Don Juan. See, I actually want to be able to get women by being me. I don't want to have to use all these petty tricks, routines and stuff to get women. That's just silly.

But I guess it works better than being genuine.

The problem is that you might be blind to the possibility that the "real you" sucks.

Every guy who came to this site failed at some point with the "just be yourself" idea. Because it's only partially true. You ARE supposed to be yourself. But only if you've built yourself into a great person.

Being polite, educated, and okay-looking isn't going to cut it. Oh you can start conversations to women? So what. Apparently you're boring.

This site isn't teaching people to play tricks and use routines. It's teaching you to develop yourself into a man who separates himself from the sea of guys who think that "being yourself" is enough. First, you build yourself into something. Then, be THAT guy.

Or you could just give up now, and end up marrying the next chick that wants to date you. That's what 90% of my guy friends do. Settle for some boring relationship with an average chick because they don't have the guts to change.

Having the skill to open sets of women, as you said you can easily do, is a GREAT skill to have. Can you develop the rest of it, or do you just want to whine about it and give up?

 

[Groovy]

Yeah, Elstud, I get what you're saying.

But my point is just this: If you're funny, confident in yourself, and nice, why do girls not like you? These are all attractive qualities. You must be lacking something... Self esteem, respect for yourself, happiness. Think about it.

It's not the girls fault that they don't like you. If you were attractive, they would. There must be something unattractive about you then, you must find out what it is. It's in your personality. You can be nice and still get girls. Just don't confuse being nice with AFC.

You're obviously upset right now. That is weakness. That is the example of one unattractive thing in you. Man, now that I read the thread again, that first post really is awesome. "Well, those don't really seem like the words of a master don juan right there!"

Just trying to help you out by pointing some stuff out. I wish good luck to you bro! : D

 

[ElStud]

Yeah, Elstud, I get what you're saying.

But my point is just this: If you're funny, confident in yourself, and nice, why do girls not like you? These are all attractive qualities. You must be lacking something... Self esteem, respect for yourself, happiness. Think about it.

It's not the girls fault that they don't like you. If you were attractive, they would. There must be something unattractive about you then, you must find out what it is. It's in your personality. You can be nice and still get girls. Just don't confuse being nice with AFC.

You're obviously upset right now. That is weakness. That is the example of one unattractive thing in you. Man, now that I read the thread again, that first post really is awesome. "Well, those don't really seem like the words of a master don juan right there!"

Just trying to help you out by pointing some stuff out. I wish good luck to you bro! : D

Yes, attractive qualities. Like what? "Swagger" "Looks" materialistic things? I don't even care anyway. I'm who I am and I don't care if I have attractive qualities or not. I like women who like me for me. Now I have approached and seen some of these women, but the majority of women don't.

Now, remember these same girls who don't like me for me, will date a jerk in a second. And I wouldn't want those girls anyway, other than for SEX anyway.

See, but I'm looking more than just a SLUT to ****. I'm looking for a girl, who's cool who I can hang with. And most girls in my age area, don't fit that bill. Ontop of being boring, most of these girls will end up knocked up with 5 kids, then expect GENUINE guys to want them still.

So is it really unattractive qualities? I don't think so. Maybe UNATTRACTIVE to a chick who's looking for a cheap thrill. But not unattractive with a chick who's actually trying to be in a relationship.

However, most chicks are like that. They pass up good guys who will stay with them for a long time and take care of them, for jerks who screw em' for a couple months, then move on to the next chick.

 

[Iceberg]

Yes, attractive qualities. Like what? "Swagger" "Looks" materialistic things? I don't even care anyway. I'm who I am and I don't care if I have attractive qualities or not. I like women who like me for me. Now I have approached and seen some of these women, but the majority of women don't.

Now, remember these same girls who don't like me for me, will date a jerk in a second. And I wouldn't want those girls anyway, other than for SEX anyway.

See, but I'm looking more than just a SLUT to ****. I'm looking for a girl, who's cool who I can hang with. And most girls in my age area, don't fit that bill. Ontop of being boring, most of these girls will end up knocked up with 5 kids, then expect GENUINE guys to want them still.

So is it really unattractive qualities? I don't think so. Maybe UNATTRACTIVE to a chick who's looking for a cheap thrill. But not unattractive with a chick who's actually trying to be in a relationship.

However, most chicks are like that. They pass up good guys who will stay with them for a long time and take care of them, for jerks who screw em' for a couple months, then move on to the next chick.

Are you willing to at least CONSIDER for one second...just one second, that maybe it's your fault and not everyone else's? Maybe you're not as a good a talker as you thought? Maybe you're not as great a catch as you keep telling yourself?

Are you open to thinking about that? Or do you just want to continue living in this fantasy world where all women who don't date you are "sl*ts" and the dudes they date are "jerks"?

Maybe you want to consider that you need to improve at something instead of blaming the world for your downfalls.

 

[ElStud]

Are you willing to at least CONSIDER for one second...just one second, that maybe it's your fault and not everyone else's? Maybe you're not as a good a talker as you thought? Maybe you're not as great a catch as you keep telling yourself?

Are you open to thinking about that? Or do you just want to continue living in this fantasy world where all women who don't date you are "sl*ts" and the dudes they date are "jerks"?

Maybe you want to consider that you need to improve at something instead of blaming the world for your downfalls.

Perhaps not. But let's look at me. When I approach I'm confident. When I approach I'm non threatening. When I approach I actually give a damn about her. I can approach ANY set, which is something a lot of guys are incapable of.

I can keep telling myself "I'm not a great catch". Yeah, I'm not really worried about being a "Great catch". I'm more worried about finding the right chick for me. See unlike you people, I see approaching women as MORE than a game. I see it as looking for a chick with a good personality.

Now, I've gone up to a lot of chicks and gotten numbers. You want to know what most of these chicks had in common? They actually cared about my PERSONALITY and not materialistic things.

I'm just saying that to pick a dude who abuses you, over a nice confident guy who, would care and protect you, is a little bit f'd up. This is why when they're 30 and have 5 children, guys like me could care less.

 

[The Assistant]

anyone else consider reading the OP's thread history?

now let's not waste any more time engaging him with advice.

 

[Iceberg]

Perhaps not. But let's look at me. When I approach I'm confident. When I approach I'm non threatening. When I approach I actually give a damn about her. I can approach ANY set, which is something a lot of guys are incapable of.

I can keep telling myself "I'm not a great catch". Yeah, I'm not really worried about being a "Great catch". I'm more worried about finding the right chick for me. See unlike you people, I see approaching women as MORE than a game. I see it as looking for a chick with a good personality.

Right. But you come to "us people" to cry about your women problems. I get it, you're "different" than us. You "care". You "have standards". Every sexually frustrated dude comes on here with the same rant.

See, here's what I'm learning about you.

1. Women don't like you. But it's not you who is the problem. It's the women.

2. Other guys bang these women. But it's not that these other guys are doing something right. It's that the guys are jerks. And the women have poor taste. Once again...it's somehow not you.

I'm just saying that to pick a dude who abuses you, over a nice confident guy who, would care and protect you, is a little bit f'd up. This is why when they're 30 and have 5 children, guys like me could care less.

Nice, Caring, and Protective are BORING. BORING. That doesn't make a woman wet. No one wants to F*CK "nice".

I love how the two choices in your universe are "be with a nice, protective, caring guy" or "get abused and left with 5 kids". That's funny.

anyone else consider reading the OP's thread history?

now let's not waste any more time engaging him with advice.

Look at The Assistant, doing research and sh*t.

You're right. This guy is a lost cause.

 

[ElStud]

anyone else consider reading the OP's thread history?

now let's not waste any more time engaging him with advice.

" Me vs. Dumb Pregnant Chick".

Now that we're past that.

The whole point of this thread was to get off some steam. I could really care less what you guys think, because I doubt all of you are that great with women yourselves. I'm just stating what I've noticed in my experience. Nothing you say is really gonna make me approach again. I've made up my mind.

Chicks don't want a real guy like me. At least not chicks my age. They want a fake, a liar or a jerk. And I'm not wasting my time anymore.

I've got tons of other crap in my life other than women and if women don't want a REAL dude like me, then I'm done. It's not like I need women anyway. Women are a want. The way I see it, if I ever "want" a woman as in sexually, I just watch porn. Good, confident guys like me get nothing.

I bet you if I just went out one day and started calling women "*****es" my success would skyrocket. I'd maybe get slapped by the few GENUINE women, but most of these girls my age eat that **** up. Problem is, that's NOT my personality and I will NOT change my personality, just to get laid. I just won't do it.

 

[The Assistant]

Look at The Assistant, doing research and sh*t.

You're right. This guy is a lost cause.

The problem with ElStud (and all other chumps like him) is that he DOESN'T LISTEN TO GOOD ADVICE, and he's continued to be a creepy prick to girls for over 4 years now despite getting CONSTANT great advice from people on sosuave.

He's ignored everything, he's as lost a cause as any guy out there.

He also is most likely very physically unattractive, with an awkward personality, and possibly a mental disorder

 

[ElStud]

The problem with ElStud (and all other chumps like him) is that he DOESN'T LISTEN TO GOOD ADVICE, and he's continued to be a creepy prick to girls for over 4 years now despite getting CONSTANT great advice from people on sosuave.

He's ignored everything, he's as lost a cause as any guy out there.

He also is most likely very physically unattractive, with an awkward personality, and possibly a mental disorder

By the same measure of "research" you are a hairy fatass 26 year old who's never approached a girl. See what I did there? You don't know **** about me and I don't know **** about you. But I'm not acting like I know **** about you, see?