Quora response: What do feminists think of men going their own way (MGTOW)?

[MatureDJ]

Amanda Brown, proud feminist and gal-pal
Answered Jan 8
When women go their own way, as in not subscribing to marriage in pursuit of other life choices like career and education and sexual freedom, they have been accused of being too masculine, bitches, witches, old maids, barren, lesbians, *****s, or sluts.

When they have tried to pursue certain careers or education, they have been told they couldn’t or were forbidden to do so. They have been denied basic rights like maternity leave and equal pay when they have tried to pursue careers. They have been disfigured (by acid for example), arrested (even in recent times in remote areas of Saudi Arabia or areas under ISIS and Taliban rule, and going back to ancient Greece and Assyria when women weren’t to leave the house unattended) and have been killed. In ancient Assyria, it was law that if a woman spoke out of turn she was to have her teeth smashed with a brick.

Women have been killed in honor killings when not wanting to marry someone or being accused of pre-marital sex or adultery. They have been killed in domestic violence situations in percentages that outweigh the percent of men killed in domestic violence situations.

Women are killed every day for rejecting sexual advances and/or ending relationships in much higher numbers than women kill men in similar situations. Women have had their feet bound and disfigured so that they could not wander far. They have been told that they must cover their bodies in order to go outside (in some places and times this was as much a woman could hope for going their own way) or they could face severe punishment.

Doctors have broken their pelvises in half, causing permanent disfigurement or death so that women won’t miscarry during labor (thanks to Ireland’s staunch Catholic view of ‘pro-life.’. This ensures that women have no control over their own bodies (going their own way I’m assuming means have autonomy over your body).

They have had birth control pills, designed to help them ‘go their own way’ not covered by insurance when Viagra is. They have had their ****orises removed in hopes that they wouldn’t have sexual freedom or pleasure so that they wouldn’t seek their own lovers. They have been locked in asylums for wanting out of bad marriages or having financial disputes with their husbands- meaning they wanted more financial independence and freedom.

They have had to seek back alley abortions to ‘go their own way’ from pregnancy and parenthood, and have wound up permanently injured or dead. They have been raped and gang raped for ‘going their own way’— going outside for a walk, and been told that it was their fault for wearing make up, skirts, heels, or even nail polish. Women have been wanting to go their own way for a long time.

Men have always been much more free compared to women to choose how their lives have turned out. Men have been much more free to go out into the world without fear of being murdered or raped. Men have been more free to pursue education and career. They have also been more free to choose their own sexual partners compared to women. But with MGTOW, all they do is bash and blame women because they haven’t had a problem going their own way— they just have a problem with women. When women want to go their own way, all they want is to be left alone.

Oh my, I could imagine the pain of being this gal's boyfriend.

 

[TheGambino]

Who gives a fauck What a feminist thinks ?

 

[sazc]

I cant speak for all women but I think MGTOW is a good thing if that is what a man wants. Better he honor himself and how he feels, then put himself in a situation where he's constantly feeling frustrated.

 

[European-DJ]

If you forget about all the other nonsense she writes and focus on the quote below, then I think she has a very valid point. Not far from what many previous contributors have been preaching on this forum.

“Men have always been much more free compared to women to choose how their lives have turned out. Men have been much more free to go out into the world without fear of being murdered or raped. Men have been more free to pursue education and career. They have also been more free to choose their own sexual partners compared to women. But with MGTOW, all they do is bash and blame women because they haven’t had a problem going their own way— they just have a problem with women.”

 

[Serenity]

I don't get it, what's her point really? I'm not against women going their own ways, of course it's horrible what has happened in the past and continues to happen in a few cultures.

Does that diminish our experience as men? Not at all. What she does here is try to minimize what we go through, sure it's not disfigurement, but painful nonetheless. Men should definitely not be silenced by such comments or it could very well reverse the roles, where women are the abusers and men the abused. With that type of rage in women directed towards men it's likely they would commit the exact same crimes men has committed towards women in the past, if left to grow like the cancer it is. Resistance towards such hate is needed.

Nothing good comes from hate.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

So MGTOW is akin to killing women. Got it. #feministlogic

 

[Pandora]

The main fallacy that feminist suffer from is this idea that men have it easy in life. Hardcore feminist think being a man is a land of sunshine and butterflies. They have noo idea. But they are so solipsistic that they can not see the other side. When I talk to feminist, I ask them one question. I say " have you ever involuntarily gone a year without sex?" Their faces go blank and they say no. I say well millions of men across the world have to face this fate. I explain to them this is a little peak into the struggles of men that you can't even begin to understand you mental midget. The more reasonable ones are more open to listen after I present that thought experiment. The more delusional ones still keep talking nonsense.

I have talked to feminist about MGTOW. They don't understand it because they think they we have a sweet deal. They look at is as walking away from an awesome life.

 

[Urbanyst]

She can tell this to all her cats.