"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Quick sex question

# of sexual partners (Penetration)

  • Virgin, but attempting to lose this curse!

    Votes: 16 20.5%
  • Virgin, and plannig stay that way!

    Votes: 3 3.8%
  • 0-2

    Votes: 18 23.1%
  • 3-7

    Votes: 16 20.5%
  • 8-16

    Votes: 7 9.0%
  • 17-30

    Votes: 7 9.0%
  • 31+

    Votes: 7 9.0%
  • Don't Know

    Votes: 4 5.1%

  • Total voters
    78

Francisco d'Anconia

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Rex Man said:
...(After rereading your post, Fancicso, I realized that you where talking about anyone and not me in general)

Rex Man
:yes: But it's curious that you thought so...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I stopped counting when I was 23. Being fairly AFC, I was somewhat ashamed that I was over 50 and couldn't remember names.

Later, I started to get a little upset with myself: I let over 50 worthless women be with me... I mean, where are those slvts now? Fat, married, knocked-up, whatever - they aren't with me. I started to think, "I fvck too many women."

Then I was like::confused: :eek: :nervous: Wha-WHAT?!?

So, I stopped watching T.V.

Who is the supreme dictator of what is good or right? What is the ideal "good" number? The fact is, every woman I've ever fuxed is better off for it, and so am I.

:crackup:

Just kidding, I'm a 31 year old virgin.
 

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Sicarius said:
That's a stupid, jealous way to look at it. If you're 20 with 100 partners most of whom are significantly attractive, then you're just damn good.
Why would I be jealous about it? That's just my opinion, that you're playing russian roulette with your johnson banging that many chicks. But I don't really care who sticks their d!ck in what. Far be it for me to judge a man by what he does with his unit.

if you are going to make a list of how manys, instead of how many different chicks in total, why dont you total how many times with each chick?
Good point. That was my problem years ago. Good numbers, but the not sexual experience (or confidence) I should've had, because most were one night stands or two day flings. My friend's advice at the time was "find a steady, nasty girlfriend who loves sex and fvck her every day for a few months and then problem solved".

But you're right. "total # of deeds done" is a much more meaningful number. Sleeping with 10 women once is still only 10 times at bat.
 

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THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING TOPIC... I'm in my mid twenties and i only had 5 girls under my belt...

BUT...looking back when i was younger, not because of my looks but more of my insecurity, lack of confidence and social skills, a good male influence, lack of game (I can go on and on) i guess that's what inhibited me from getting more TAIL.

If i played my cards right when i was younger i'd be in the double digits as far as sex partners and i'm a decent guy but i was scared to show some TESTOSTERONE....It was drilled into my head and repeated... somethin that nice guys shouldn't do :rolleyes: :rolleyes: . But it's amazing to see what CONDITIONING can do to a guy and be the difference between virgin and major player

- Kingbeef
 

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Penkitten- You are a very mean & cruel person, just wanted you to know that.

Back to Business. I see where you are coming from but, ABSOLUTELY NO!!!!
It DOES NOT MATTER how many times you had sex with a particualar chick. You only had to game her once. Assuming you didn't fvck up royally she'll want some more

Look at it from my perspective. I've had sex with 27 women (Absolutely no clue with how many times for each girl, though). I've had to personally put in work, and adapt my game 27 times. Despite what some may say, each girl IS different. If someone told me that they knew more than me because they had sex with there girl 28 times, it would take all my power not to slap five across his forehead. Thanks for your time, you heartless bastard.

GirlCrazy- I understand what you're saying about extremes, but realize that people are just different. You really can't look down on a person if he doesn't have sex or if he fvcks 200 girls in a year. Live and let live, don't be so damn judgemental.


Rex Man
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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penkitten said:
said a guy who could still count them on his fingers.
if you are going to make a list of how manys, instead of how many different chicks in total, why dont you total how many times with each chick?.
Remember in another thread when I mentioned that most men are concerned with quantity over quality???? (hint, hint... wink, wink... nudge, nudge...) ;)
 

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Rex Man said:
Penkitten- You are a very mean & cruel person, just wanted you to know that.


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rex, im really not mean and heartless , as i was joking about the counting on the hands thing. i thought you could tell.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
My buds and I do talk about women but we definitely don't use them as a barometer of our sexual prowess; we might as well just whip our d1cks out onto the bar and compare length, it still doesn't effectively measure you as a man. You're shortchanging your life thinking that it such a measurement is such a major defining factor.

If you measure your life by the quality and not the quantity of what it contains you just might have a better outcome with women. So much so, that you may be with enough to realize that it just doesn't matter.
is this the one?
heres another :
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102973&highlight=quality+quanity
 

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As I posted in your other thread, I've tapped 40+ women in my 20s and I've had sex with my wife twice a week for the past 10 years. In fact I just got done with a nooner (took the day off today). :D

Did I make the 'cool' list or something?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I don't know:confused:

I've been drunk and drugged up in vegas for so long there are full nights that I can't even remember. Girls names events etc etc I just don't know. I do know that I get an STD check every 6 months. I'm very lucky in that respect.
 

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ok now I need to be bumped into the 3-7 category haha, fun times
 

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Above 31. Way above. All hot too, including models, strippers, or just the prettiest girl in the room, apart from one fat chick who took advantage of me when I was drunk.

I am 37 though, so it's not that high. By the time I was 23 I'd hit 40 but since then I've mostly been in LTRs.
 

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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Interesting. I'd be curious on the various definitions of quality.
i honestly dont think i want to know all the different definitions of quality.
 
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