“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Quick OLD Fattie Detector Tips

kraytkiller

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Ok, so if your interested in OLD here's some quick tips to make sure you don't end up with a fatty and waste your time.

1. Headshots only - Big red flag, attractive women will be willing to show full body.

2. Headshot fat - Has a start of a double chin, puffy cheefs, jowls, looks like she's looking at a slice of cake, ect. Any sign of fat on the face is pretty much a good indicator there's fat somewhere else

3. Collarbone - If you can't see a clear definition of bone structure in their collarbone, they're most likely slightly overweight/fat. This can be covered up by certain poses, but if it's hidden and there's no clear definition in 2 or more photos, assume overweight.

4. Arm thickness - Their upper arms will be rounder, bigger, have sag, or have that spotted pimply look. Even when their arms are folded -- if they have biceps that you wouldn't want to mess with, and she's not a weight trainer, assume fat.

5. Full body shots, only loose clothing - If they have a bunch of full body shots, but in all the pics she's wearing either black, a blouse or some sort of loose fitting tank top, a loose dress, ect, try to identify steps 1-4 and if 2 or more signs are confirmed, she's VERY likely fat

6. Hands - Chubby, swollen looking hands, puffy around the palms, but fat chicks can still have slim fingers (or not)

7. Groin area - look for what looks like a small hill gathering in her pants when she posts pictures of herself sitting down.

8. Legs - Thick thickness, especially sitting down. Self explanatory.

9. Description - Curvy is fat. Thick is extremely fat. Average is a red flag. An attractive woman will make sure it is known. If they say 'I'm not a size 2 but my curves are in all the right places ;)' they're OBVIOUSLY most likely VERY fat

10. Height description - If she lists herself as 5'5 or shorter and isn't obviously thin or fit, I would take this as a red flag.

11. Location - rarely they will be so obvious, but if all her pics are of her consuming food, you should be able to accurately assume her favorite activity.

12. Consistently heavy photo editing - Attractive chicks don't need PC programs to make themselves more attractive. Not in EVERY photo. Obviously this one is a bit more iffy and should be followed up with other identifiers, cause b!tches love editing.

13. Facebook - If theyve made the logistical error of posting their full name on whatever site your on, go to facebook and look them up. Attractive women will usually have plenty of pics of themselves in various clothes. A fat chick will either have a full body pic on a site they think is 'safe' or will have a bunch of pics of random **** like cats and flags.

I'll add more if I think of any, but mainly I use the arm, face and collarbone and facebook crosscheck if possible to cut down my chances of getting something ugly DRASTICALLY. I pretty much always know what they really look like, before I meet them, now.

IMO collarbone is hardest to hide, especially in headshots, and cannot really be faked.

edit: Looking through some online photos -- fat chicks have broader looking shoulders too. Here's some examples.

http://i.imgur.com/K7TDuUp.jpg

Seems possible cute, right?

http://i.imgur.com/Tc4h8Wo.jpg

Broad shoulders, look to be holding a lot of weight. Loose fitting clothing, covering her arm fat

http://i.imgur.com/FvNz7PB.jpg

Neck rolls. No collar bone. Arms look thick. Headshot only. 100% sure she's fat.

This one is a bit harder ( kinda )

http://i.imgur.com/l90Scv2.jpg

No collar bone, Headshot only, you can see the thickness in her arms, especially by the armpit

http://i.imgur.com/MPuL83f.jpg

Puffy cheeks, still no collarbone

http://i.imgur.com/jWQoJNz.jpg

Big red flag, fat all up in the face, even going slightly to the neck. Black clothes, hiding the rest of her fat areas, especially arms, from the camera.

The last photo was the most telling But I still had my doubts until...

I'm a gamer. I love video games
Sits on her ass all day consistently, not active

The six things I could never do without

cell service
my phone
internet
netflix
buffalo wings
phone charger
I spend a lot of time thinking about: Food
I am 100% sure she is huge irl.
 

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Good write up. You've got to do your homework before the meetup so you dont waste your time. I've had this happen to me, and the always reliable indicator is the headshots only profile. That screams undercover fattie.
 

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Another one I would like to add is how clear her THROAT is. Fat girls typically have a flabby throat, like the ones in the pictures you posted. You will be able to see the outline of woman's throat on slimmer women. The cheek one is a good indicator and the collarbone one is my personal favorite, as I personally love collarbone except when it's covered by fat...

Those three alone should be enough. It's really hard to cover up being fat to be honest.
 

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Quick tip:

Get their number. (I always recommend getting their number)

Tell them to send you a picture for your phone.

Make sure they aren't sending you one from their POF or they send a full body. If not? Delete.
 

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Espi said:
I personally never take their number anymore unless they give it to me voluntarily. 

I email them once, complimenting them on their best photo, and then I invite them to drink with me. This is all done on the first email, & 99 percent of the time, in my experience, if they accept my invite, then they give me their phone number without my even asking for it. 

Do not even bother with the ones who have no full body shots. It's a complete waste of time trying to decode and strategize and figure out if they're actually fat or not.

Assume they're hiding something. 
Make THEM prove themselves to you.

Just know that if she has no head to toe pics then you're most likely wasting your time; just email her and say, "I'd like to see a full body shot of you." Just tell them what you want. She'll do it if she wants to meet you. Taking her number means very little. They can text you an old photo. Chicks store THOUSANDS of photos in their phone.
I see your point. Though I've never had an issue with telling them to give me their number. They either do and I get a picture not on their profile and hear their voice/ get a feel if they aren't a weirdo and decide to not bother, or they don't and I keep it moving. Most will send several not on their profile. Several will after a while send n00ds etc.

Incog is down in Tampa (doesn't post here anymore) and killed it online. Still doing it. Getting insane chit from these chicks meeting and smashing. I told him to come back and post a whole thread on his exploits but he isn't interested.

Oh and believe me I can tell you are one of the dudes slaying it online.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Here's one I have thought of but not tried out yet...

Her: "How tall are you?"

You: "How much do you weigh?"
 

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Espi said:
It's really quite simple to me. If she's not willing to show herself from head to toe, then she's either fat and or she lacks confidence. It's a huge red flag and I've learned this from several years of trial and error.
Yup, and the thing is, girls with nice bodies want maximum validation from it and thus will always flaunt themselves in photos as a result. Very rarely has someone without a full body shot looked better in real life, or turned out to be slim. I usually won't even waste my time sending them messages anymore because it's such a foregone conclusion.
 

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You can usually tell by the angle they take their pictures at as well. If she takes a lot of "helicopter view" shots where she's looking up at the camera, she's intentionally hiding her chins / arms / belly / etc.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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