"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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quick need help..keep fighting for her or not

fuko2007

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So here it goes. ive been seeing this girl who is 16 years older tan me almost 40 infact. we were off and on for a while but one day she hinted that me not treating what we had like a relationship upset her so i did. Shortly after that she started to grow more distant and we had had several conversations about just being friends so thats what we did. She also said if she saw me with another woman it would kill her. But recently she has been going out and doing things with friends and everytime i would say i went out and had fun she would get real snappy and short and make remarks that she never gets to do anything. well today she blewup and said she was tierd of everybody and didnt want to talk anymore. I didnt do anything to her so i replied back that i didnt understand her decision but ok. i would like to get a few things from your house and ill leave u alone. shortly after she calls and texts. missed her call but called right back. she was saying things like she is to stressed with work and people are talking about her etc. then she starts *****ing at me and all ive done is try to support and be there for her. i dont know if she even cares about me or if she ever did? she used to say she did. i also confronted he one night about some texts on her phone from a number that wasnt saved saying things like ive had a good time etc. i confronted her abt it and she blew up of corse and said she hasnt been sleeping seeing kissing etc with anyone else. but i feel like im fighting everyday to keep her and when i start to go my own way she turns back around. i might see her tonight but depending on how the convo goes i dont know if i should say bye? or how to put it. a little help guys would be nice. i feel like she is toying with my emotions. and itrs like if i ask her if she wants to do something she gets pissed. she dsnt want to see me it seems like but wants me there. its confusing as crap. she said she was going to move prolly because she hates this town to. dk what to do.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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You already know the answer. Find another chick, the last time I checked there were millions of them lying around.
 

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At around 40, if she doesn't have a kid that biological clock starts ticking. She has maybe a year or two to safely bear child.

She want's a kid bro...

If you don't want a kid in the next year or two i'd bail.
 

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shes said she doesnt want kids and prolly wont ever be in another relationship again. i know she had a bad marriage that might have something to do with it. but ive been going out on dates and what not and she says we are not dateing but if she found out i was seeing other women she would totally wig. she got mad when i went to see my old friend i told her about his roomate who was a girl. but we are supposed to see each other tonight. if she backs out or makes an excuse should i take nismo-4 's advice? if she is bpd wich it sounds like she could flip out. I would atleast like for us to be civil in public. just dont get if she says were not in a relationship why its treated like one?
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If you are sleeping with this woman and she is satisfying I would keep her around until I found another more dedicated female. Then I would nicely say it's not working out give a last goodbye and move on never to call her again.

If you are not sleeping with this woman, then I would immediately cease all communications with her. Send her a text saying bye and that's it.
 

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we used to sleep togther all the time. everytime we were togther. but it got to be less and less. she says shes to stressed and her body doesnt like sex when shes like that.
 

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She seems a bit toxic to be honest, and not a whole lot of fun. So you've really got two choices here:

- Tell her it's just not working for you and walk away.
or
- Put her back in her box right now. Tell her all the stuff you've just mentioned here and that whatever 'this' is, is supposed to be fun and you've got no time for her emotional outbursts.

Just don't leave any of your stuff at her house ever again... and why are you going through her phone?
 

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fuko2007 said:
So here it goes. ive been seeing this girl who is 16 years older tan me almost 40 infact.
Every time I read a post like this I wish the poster was sitting next to me so I could smack him upside the head. WTF are you doing dating an old hag who is nearly twice as old as you are? What the fvck's wrong with you??? What's next, guys complaining about retirement home hotties not giving them the time of day? I guess you could always go to a cemetery and dig up a corpse as a last resort :rolleyes:

OP, as a 24 year-old-man, you are seriously disrespecting yourself by dating this well-past-her-prime leftover woman. And if you don't respect yourself, she won't respect you either.
 

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Why do dudes put up with this chit? Please...please stop fighting. If you have to fight for her she's not worth it. Leave now. Dont even bother saying bye.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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LOL: So here it goes. ive been seeing this girl who is 16 years older tan me almost 40 infact.

Solution: Stay away from women 16 years older than you and upgrade to someone without crows eyes.
 

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thanks. Went through the same thing again tonight. Not worth it but she was to drunk to say it then. So guess I'll wait until tomorrow
 

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Cremasta said:
She seems a bit toxic to be honest, and not a whole lot of fun. So you've really got two choices here:

- Tell her it's just not working for you and walk away.
or
- Put her back in her box right now. Tell her all the stuff you've just mentioned here and that whatever 'this' is, is supposed to be fun and you've got no time for her emotional outbursts.

Just don't leave any of your stuff at her house ever again... and why are you going through her phone?
she had been real distant. found some texts from a number that was not saved and they added up. but she says she still hasnt seen anyone.
 

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Just got home. Told her we did not need to see each other anymore. There was a little bit of tears but she texted me night about an hour ago havnt texted back yet.
 
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