"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Questions to indirectly determine what she is looking for in a partner

Ryan

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Hi there,

So I thought I was would post this in the Mature Man forum, hoping to actually get mature replies.

Well, early on in the conversation, I ask girls " What was it about your ex, that made you attracted to him?" and then after a couple of days I try to emulate the character traits (since she would of forgotten that I asked her that question like a week ago)

So I actually would like to retrieve this information in a more subtle manner, in order not to wierd her out.

So my question is, can anyone recommend an indirect manner to ask this? without her knowing that I am asking "What attracted you to your ex?"

Hoping there some intelligent members on this forum who would be able to reply to this.

Thanks to the mature replies.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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RangerMIke

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Rather than trying to figure out what she wants... worry about what you want and find chicks willing to give this to you. Beside if she likes you she will let you know what pushes her buttons. If she does not, then she likely doesn't think of you are a romantic partner. Chicks who like you will adjust to you, and most will not be attracted to men that are willing to change for them.
 
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