"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Questionable Ethics

Hyper2010

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Hi Guys,

Okay heres the deal; I met a fantastic girl online from POF, whom we'll call Laura on the 1st of August. Been seeing her since, she's smart, funny, easy-going, pretty, high sex drive and made me wait until the third date which earnt respect.

However, we started talking via text/POF, about a week before our 1st date on the 1st August. We kept things cool, talked about music, places to eat, job, ambitions etc. Yet on the friday (28th July) before we met up, she went out and slept with a guy from a club.

Whats more is she lied 3 times about it last night when she made a mistake and accidentally slipped it out. She lied about it happening, that it happened at her place, and also she lied about using a condom. (She didnt)

Now, I understand that we had not met, and we were literally just messaging eachother when this happened so its not like she cheated directly. However I AM bothered by the fact she did it whilst we were messaging, the fact she seemed to have no qualms about lieing about it also.

Anyone got any advice or ideas? She said that I was paranoid about it but something feels not right here....

Phil, who feels a bit odd and lost
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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pinkfl

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Unfortunately, unless it's predetermined that you guys are exclusive, you could have done the exact same thing.

Also, the fact that she wasn't safe about it makes me think she's an idiot and that she has no qualms about putting your health at risk.

So, she's NOT that great. She's trash. Sorry. NEXT.
 

PapiChulo

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How is that it took you 3 dates to get the honey while she got barebacked by the guy from the club? I personally don't see anything wrong with it for the exception that she could be a h0e and does this all the time. No grounds to dismiss yet, but definitely a red flag.
 

d!ckmojo

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This chick has perfectly normal ethics for a Gen Y/Millennial-aged female. This is what ALL women are like, dude. They will get talked into sex by any skilful guy easily, and then lie about it and rationalise it away, to themselves and others, without any moral qualms or quibbles.

There are ups and downs to being alive now as a member of this current generation. One of the downs is that there are none/very few chaste chicks. But the upside of that is that, if you have the skills, casual sex is easily pursued.

This is why I think the notion of being in a "relationship" is quaint and anachronistic. Foolish in fact, for a man anyway, to be tied into any sort of exclusive relationship, because the fact is, most women will easily be led into sex by some random guy if he knows how to do it, regardless of their erstwhile "relationship" status.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Greasy Pig

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^^^ Yes! How the hell did this come up?
 

Desdinova

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Hyper2010 said:
However I AM bothered by the fact she did it whilst we were messaging, the fact she seemed to have no qualms about lieing about it also.
Since you're not in an official relationship with her, you should go out and fvck other women.

You shouldn't be bringing this subject up and neither should she. Whatever goes on with other sexual partners before you enter into a committed relationship is irrelevant. If you weren't putting all your eggs in one basket, I doubt you'd be this emotionally traumatized over the fact that she had sex with someone else just before you.
 

HeadLightsOn

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Personally, the 'lies' and "no condom with a guy from a club for one night" gives me a red flapping flag. Maybe a red flag in a light breeze, but a red flag none the less. STD's are no fun.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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TillTheEndOfTime

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Hyper2010 said:
made me wait until the third date which earnt respect.
God you're delusional. Wake up. She has probably had a gallon of jizz shot in her face and vagina before you met her.

She made you wait because you're a chump, not because she's pure. You simply didn't have the attraction that the 100's of guys before you did. That's why they pumped her full of love juice on the first meeting and you waited.

No girl on POF these days is relationship quality. Pump and dump. Or else be prepared to be taken as the fool.
 

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d!ckmojo said:
most women will easily be led into sex by some random guy if he knows how to do it, regardless of their erstwhile "relationship" status.
Only most women online. I know tons and tons and tons and tons of exclusive relationships that happened offline where the girl didn't even go near another guy during the relationship, even if he was infinitely more attractive than her current boyfriend. And I know at least a couple of girls in relationships that were approached by a bigger, better deal and they didn't even nibble.

You guys need to get your heads out of your a$$es and stop judging ALL women based on your nasty online/club/bar/FB-slut romps. Simply put, you're taking the wrong sample set.
 

Hyper2010

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Yeah youre right, I'm a fool if I forgive the lies and a fool if I think anything good can come from this. I'm an even bigger fool if I don't heed you fellas advice, I shouldn't be feeling like this after just 6 weeks. Time to move on
 
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