"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The Antichrist_Star

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So... I was talking to one of the members of this forum the other day. We are discussing women and things of that nature, and he told me something that made me think.

"I just want to have women falling for me."

It's a broken quote that is the jist of what he said, to which I replied... "Why?" He could not give me an answer. Albeit it small, something intrigued me about this. He said that he wanted women to fall in love with him and be all over him... but he could not tell me why. So now, I pose that question to everyone else to see what the response will be.

Here you are and for the most part... many of you are here because you have had a number of troubles with women. So I ask you... what are your motives?

Why do you want to change your position (if it's a bad one) with women?
Why do you want women all over you?

Hopefully I will get some answers, which will prompt another post later.

Until then...

AS
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I have yet to come up with an answer, D. Maybe I consider them trophies, maybe it's got to do with the social pyrimid.........:confused: Some way I will find my answer...which may be pain or relief...which is some what scary. The thing that scares me even more is suceeding...


Isn't life.....entertaining...

Oh yeah....I'm baaaaack.:D
 

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Originally posted by kyanite
Well, its in our instinct as males I guess..

We have an urge for sexual intercourse in order to continue the human race.

I would like to get a girlfriend, just understand the game clearly and be able to pick up chicks with ease..

Its pleasure!

The satisfaction of pleasure is what drives me, that real good feelin when you kiss your girl, thats why I want to play this game and that is why we are all here
All of this is true, and I am not denying that. But let's look at the facts here:

There are about 12,000 members on this board (let's just assume that all of them are active and 99% percent of them are men) from all over the world. Since they're are over 6.6 billion people in the world, let's assume half of them are men. Let's also assume that over billion of these men go on websites like these and thousands of others in an effort to get women. Leaving two billion left... begging the question... what compels people to go so far as to find a website or books like this and others in order to get women.

It has to be more than instincts, because if it was just that... millions of men would be on this site, and all of the others. Because let's be realistic... the average man is absolutely horrible with women.

There must be something that makes you different than these men... I hope someone may be able to tell me what.

AS
 

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Maybe it is failure, and the internet is just a method of finding a solution.

With your estimates, I would say that everyone no matter what would try to seek a solution from somewhere, whether it is thinking about it themselves, reading magazines, asking or observing people, or in this case the internet.

Why do I want women? Pleasure. Not just sex, conversation and being close and all the rest of that.
 

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Originally posted by arutha
Maybe it is failure, and the internet is just a method of finding a solution.

With your estimates, I would say that everyone no matter what would try to seek a solution from somewhere, whether it is thinking about it themselves, reading magazines, asking or observing people, or in this case the internet.

Why do I want women? Pleasure. Not just sex, conversation and being close and all the rest of that.
That's not the question. We all want women, and no one (I don't care how good) is 100% successful with women.

Come on guys... I am going somewhere good with this... I just need someone to meet me halfway. There's a word I'm looking for... it's starts with a d.

AS
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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you know the old sayn,"you want what you dont have"
we dont have lady body parts so we try to get them. im sure if we had the boobs and vaginas then we would be after chicks for there ****s.
i think the other aspect is what anyone who has a had a bf knows,everything is more fun when you have you significant other with you. i know from expierence that i have had more fun doing anything with a girl along.maybe its just me.
the other factor i could say is that,its nice to know that someone other then our parents and family value us and wish to be in our presence.
 

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I jsut want women to fall for me because it gives me a sense of maturity and accomplishment. At once point in my life i was a failure with the ladies, and now I can make girls fall for me left and right. Thats power man, thats powe. I love the feeling of power. Its like manipulating people to get what you want, by convincing them that YOU are what THEY want.
good feeling.

if that sounds stupi, sorry. i'm runnign on 3 hours of sleep.
 

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Originally posted by Patrick124
I jsut want women to fall for me because it gives me a sense of maturity and accomplishment. At once point in my life i was a failure with the ladies, and now I can make girls fall for me left and right. Thats power man, thats powe. I love the feeling of power. Its like manipulating people to get what you want, by convincing them that YOU are what THEY want.
good feeling.

if that sounds stupi, sorry. i'm runnign on 3 hours of sleep.
!!!

Thank you Patrick124... someone actually gave me what I was looking for.

More on this later...
 

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Yeah, i'm sure we have all heard of the "Everyone knows how, its the why that counts". The why is what pushes you on, so when you have a clear idea of WHY your doing something, you suddenly become a whole lot more motivated.

I'm not going to lie, originally i wanted girls to be cool. There has been a shift on focus, now i'm not so insecure i actually chase women because i love the game, i love finding out more about women and seduction has become a passion. This shift of focus has helped my game so much.
 

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Originally posted by Sammo
Yeah, i'm sure we have all heard of the "Everyone knows how, its the why that counts". The why is what pushes you on, so when you have a clear idea of WHY your doing something, you suddenly become a whole lot more motivated.

I'm not going to lie, originally i wanted girls to be cool. There has been a shift on focus, now i'm not so insecure i actually chase women because i love the game, i love finding out more about women and seduction has become a passion. This shift of focus has helped my game so much.
I knew you would get it... :rockon:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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i agree with patrick

for me, its mostly a power issue. becoming a serial seducer just gives me a sense of being in control of my life, and influencing those around me. most girls i seduce and then attempt to see how long i can keep them at the epitome of attraction. alot of these girls i never date, never bed. only the really special ones get that kind of attention from me. is this because of some lack of effort or ability on my part? no, its because for me, the thrill is the game of seducing a new girl. while all girls are basically alike ie want for social status, strong man etc, they are all different people, and i love having their admiration and love.

THAT is why i game
 

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If it was only for conditions of power or control, we would stop as soon as they have fallen for us. But we keep on going. We go through with the evening despite already knowing where it is leading. The chase ends and yet...
 

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....to define themselves....

Many guys get women and in some small way prove their self worth.

But it shouldn't be ALL about that. It should also be about having fun, meeting new people, enjoying each others company..... all good things!
 

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Hmmm...I'm very interested on seeing where this goes D...
 

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Because I was born with a penis, for attention, to show off and to increase reputation.

It's also the challenge you know? It's the whole idea of trying to get this 'prize girl' to be with you. Then you've won, but then there's all these other 'prizes' to be won. It's fun, and also I just really like girls. (which i do not know why)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Yeah i agree with the power thing, its an incredible rush to have any huge degree of power (fast cars etc,) also, because or the sex thing...lots of women = lots of sex =:D

as well as being able to compare ourselves and feel better than other guys, having loads of chick over you gives you a huge feeling or acceptace as well
 

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If youre asking WHY we all searched for these forums, Im sure the vast majority of posters could simply name THE GIRL they were so desperately infatuated with.

Molly Taylor.

If you were to ask why that vast majority continued to post, Im sure many of them could simply recall a few sticky situations where they needed some ideas, feedback, or encouragement.

My first (disfunctional) relationship.

But its more than just a handful of singular situations and circumstances. Its a collective, uplifting spirit.

Sure, its about power... on a large/public scale. You walk into a bar, the guy surrounded by hotties has more social influence than the guy by himself at the corner table. But, when the two guys wake up the next morning, that power is gone.

It feels right to kiss someone youre attracted to. It feels right to hold someone you care for.

You know, deep inside, youre own potential. You know what you want and need.

Why do you want to improve youre position with women?
Because I have not yet fulfilled my potential... I have not fully expanded the qunatity, or quality, of the women in my life.

Why do you wnat women to fall all over you?
Because I know I am a great catch. Success and my percieved social value help me bolster my faith in myself.
 

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Originally posted by TonyTheTigerOI
If youre asking WHY we all searched for these forums, Im sure the vast majority of posters could simply name THE GIRL they were so desperately infatuated with.

Molly Taylor.

If you were to ask why that vast majority continued to post, Im sure many of them could simply recall a few sticky situations where they needed some ideas, feedback, or encouragement.

My first (disfunctional) relationship.

But its more than just a handful of singular situations and circumstances. Its a collective, uplifting spirit.

Sure, its about power... on a large/public scale. You walk into a bar, the guy surrounded by hotties has more social influence than the guy by himself at the corner table. But, when the two guys wake up the next morning, that power is gone.

It feels right to kiss someone youre attracted to. It feels right to hold someone you care for.

You know, deep inside, youre own potential. You know what you want and need.

Why do you want to improve youre position with women?
Because I have not yet fulfilled my potential... I have not fully expanded the qunatity, or quality, of the women in my life.

Why do you wnat women to fall all over you?
Because I know I am a great catch. Success and my percieved social value help me bolster my faith in myself.
;)
 

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Why do I want to be successful with women?

Two reasons: satisfaction and power. It feels good to have women all over you, and even better when they're REALLY all over you. This forum, the articles, and the motivation of the posts is helping me reach that goal, and that is why I keep coming back. As for power, as TTTOI said, it comes with having every woman you want. Yes, I may never reach that point where every single girl I've ever wanted falls for me, but as long as I'm working towards that and seeing improvement, no ill can come from it.
 

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Simply because I couldn't before. All my (young) life, everyone else has been getting women, until now 'cept me.

I do it because i finally can.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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