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Question to really handsome guys

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Not sure how many of you fall into the "very handsome guys" category (certainly not me) but I was always curious how females interact with really handsome guys i.e.:
- how often are you messaged first by distant aquaintances (females) that you have met just recently or on dating apps?
- how is interaction flowing with females that approach you first in non-romantic manner (i.e. how often it is in fact their way to approach you later in romantic manner or allow you to approach them like that)?
- how often are you informed (whether directly or indirectly) that this or that woman is into you?
- how direct are females about idea of being sexual.with you?
- how often females simp for you/do you favours?
 
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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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- how often are you messaged first by distant aquaintances (females) that you have met just recently or on dating apps?
Never. Once in a while, a girl will like me on a dating app and actually read my bio and make a comment, but 90% of the time, they're not attractive ones.

- how is interaction flowing with females that approach you first in non-romantic manner (i.e. how often it is in fact their way to approach you later in romantic manner or allow you to approach them like that)?
Again, assuming you're referring to women you find attractive, I cannot think of the last time a woman's come up to me. She may give me a lot of signs that she wants me to, but she'll wait to see if I do it.

The last time I can remember a woman approaching me was this unattractive girl who was hammered and came up to me at the bar, whom I let down nicely, but was so drunk that she came back and tried again later, not realizing she had already shot her shot.

- how often are you informed (whether directly or indirectly) that this or that woman is into you?
Never. I either already know, don't care, or will find out for myself if she's somebody I want to approach.

- how direct are females about idea of being sexual.with you?
If we've never had sex before, not very. They may talk about us leaving the venue and going back to somebody's place, but it will never be explicitly stated that sex is going to happen.

If it's somebody I've slept with before, they will often be much more to-the-point.

- how often females simp for you/do you favours?
If we've never had sex before, rarely.

If we have, they are much more accommodating. I wouldn't say women "simp" for me, but they'll make themselves more available because they've had such a good time already.
 

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Handsome is subjective because attractiveness is based on the eyes of the beholder
- how often are you messaged first by distant aquaintances (females) that you have met just recently or on dating apps?
I haven't been on the apps in years, but I would get them reaching out to me occassionally.

- how is interaction flowing with females that approach you first in non-romantic manner (i.e. how often it is in fact their way to approach you later in romantic manner or allow you to approach them like that)?
I get approached by a female everytime I leave the house whether that be through friendly banter or approach. I get a lot of smiles and hellos by women all the time. Since I am in a LTR, I avoid clubs and bars like the plague.

- how often are you informed (whether directly or indirectly) that this or that woman is into you?
Back then a lot, but usually these women tend to be ugly and fat lol. Hotter women will not use a friend to approach you for them.

- how direct are females about idea of being sexual.with you?
Pretty aggressive especially when I go hangout with these groups and they do not think me and my LTR are dating because I am 6ft 1 black dude and she is a short asian girl lol.

- how often females simp for you/do you favours?
A lot haha, I always get free shvt from females and society in general.
 

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I had a friend that was really good looking. Women would approach him in bars all the time. He was pretty much clueless. He had no idea how to converse, yet these girls kept trying to get him to talk.
Yeah, my friend can sit in a corner playing darts and find a woman to go home with.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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Interesting, I see already quite different experience for a person living in Nashville (Mid-South West) and for a person living in Wilmington (East Coast) assuming similar level of attractiveness - I assume different region and perhaps social circle-related experience for CornbreadFed are is at least partially responsible for somewhat different replies to my questions.
 

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Sigh..

When will you ( guys) learn that " a really handsome guy" isn't about JUST his looks. Women don't operate like we do. Looks are objective. I know fat men small men, Asian men, Indian men ( or whatever is deemed as "generally unattractive")that are KILLING it with the ladies because the believe in themselves .

A 1 good body will automatically 2 shape your face. Now you already have two thing going for you. Next you need 3 MONEY. 4Good clothes. 5 Style.6 Smell good. 7Good teeth. A 8mouthpiece/9 charme. 10 Having your shyte together. 11 Some to offer. All things that ANY man can achieve if he puts in the hard work

but more importantly is your aura/ vibe/ confidence or however you wanna name it.

This posts reeks of insecurity and that's okay. But to me it reads like " I'm not good enough but to those that DO FEEL good enough yadiya ".

All your questions should be expected to happen. Are you here to become a don juan or to remain an incel? How often this happened?Depends on how much work you put in. If you are consistent you'll experience it more often. If you walk around like you talk now( head down) this will always be a " what if " question. .

To really answer your question(s) . I expect nothing else. I expect that EVERY woman somewhere deep down inside wouldn't mind fecking me. Ofcourse that ain't true but hey...it happened often enough that I set the bar at " it's ALWAYS possible at any time ".

OP you got TONS of work to do in the mental department.
 

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- how is interaction flowing with females that approach you first in non-romantic manner (i.e. how often it is in fact their way to approach you later in romantic manner or allow you to approach them like that)?




- how direct are females about idea of being sexual.with you?
Just going to reply to the two questions that piqued my interest.

I don’t know that I ever been approached in a ‘non-romantic’ manner by a girl. . People that approach are usually doing it because they are physically attracted. Granted there are plenty of friendly people who just strike up a conversation. But that’s a completely separate event.

Women are very sexually direct.
Just a few examples:

My first Tinder date. An hour after meeting, we were in an Uber. She started massaging my inner thigh.

I met a girl on a group hiking trip. In less than two hours, She wanted us to go back to town & get a room.

I was driving with a coworker. She told me to pull over so she could svck my d!ck.

We were having a ‘college day’ at my work. I wound up chatting with a coed. We exchanged #’s. She called me up later that day and told me all the sexual activities she liked.

I could go on.
 

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(...)

This posts reeks of insecurity and that's okay. But to me it reads like " I'm not good enough but to those that DO FEEL good enough yadiya ".

(...)

OP you got TONS of work to do in the mental department.
Tbh I had idea that this thread will be more about females taking action out of their own initiative vs very handsome guy on their radar rather than for the purpose of wondering how much initiative you need to pick a woman (it's perfectly clear to me that 5/10 looks guy due to various reasons can sleep with much more women than 9/10 guy) but this thread is not really about it.

For example (me being described as 7 - 7.5/10 looks guy by a chick that wanted to sleep with me when I was in college) and prolly around (but not nearly) 8/10 when I was about 36 years old (as women I was dating said I looked better when I was older):

- females (real profiles, not some pajeet scammers) send me invitations on Facebook
- 3 years ago I was invited on a date out of nowhere by 5/10 chick that met me on a party in college 15 years ago
- last time I was on Tinder, with about 600 matches in approx 2mln ppl city (which is just ok) some females with not more than 7/10 in looks wrote me messages first (also a lot more of first messages from uglier chicks I matched on purpose to increase visibility of my profile)
- when I was in college I was openly complemented online on college forums regarding my looks by a chick I later fingered on some party
- some wives of my friends tease them by saying I am handsome in front of them

So I am mostly interested what's the next level - sure I understand all that looks-money-status mechanics, but, like already stated, I want stories about member of sosuave going somewhere and being approached by chicks for romantic purposes after some eye contact (or even no eye contact).

Do not get me wrong as well, I am married and not interested in pick up as long as it lasts, but I am curious what is the really good looking guy first-contact experience with women in case he is being approached (not the over way around) and how often it happens as well as in what circumstances.
 
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Tbh I had idea that this thread will be more about females taking action out of their own initiative vs very handsome guy on their radar rather than for the purpose of wondering how much initiative you need to pick a woman (it's perfectly clear to me that 5/10 looks guy due to various reasons can sleep with much more women than 9/10 guy) but this thread is not really about it.

For example (me being described as 7 - 7.5/10 looks guy by a chick that wanted to sleep with me when I was in college) and prolly around (but not nearly) 8/10 when I was about 36 years old (as women I was dating said I looked better when I was older):

- females (real profiles, not some pajeet scammers) send me invitations on Facebook
- I was invited on a date out of nowhere by 5/10 chick that met me on a party in college 10 years ago
- last time I was on Tinder, with about 600 matches in approx 2mln ppl city (which is just ok) some females with not more than 7/10 in looks wrote me messages first (also a lot more of first messages from uglier chicks I matched on purpose to increase visibility of my profile)
- when I was in college I was openly complemented online on college forums my looks by a chick I later fingered on some party
- some wives of my friends tease them by saying I am handsome in front of them

So I am mostly interested what's the next level - sure I understand all that looks-money-status mechanics, but, like already stated, I want stories about member of sosuave going somewhere and being approached by chicks for romantic purposes after some eye contact (or even no eye contact).
You a cuck? How will this benefit YOU???

I can digg into my mental archives and come up with plenty of stories.

I had women tapping my shoulder saying she normally doesn't do this but yadiya. I fecked my teacher after being kicked out of school. I fecked a friends girl ( low shyte). I fecked a woman without knowing her name. A woman took me home at a party she was at with her BOYFRIEND and he was waiting downstairs while I fecked her... I can go on and on and on.

7/7? Let me geuss. You used to a rate me app and now you believe that to be true? Don't you wanna be the one telling the story instead of asking the questions????
 

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You a cuck? How will this benefit YOU???
I'm curious, I want to assess what experience I was missing and whether I rated (and perhaps I am still rating) my own looks properly - I think different experience concerning females approaching men correlate with different level of physical attractiveness.

7/7? Let me geuss. You used to a rate me app and now you believe that to be true? Don't you wanna be the one telling the story instead of asking the questions????
Haha, nah, I don't use such things- I thing situations that occur naturally in your life may allow to assess physical attractiveness better (however we want to define it). Of course there will be always some variation of possible results (you may look and be totally tired one day, due to various circumstances, and a week later be in great form - result will be more IOIs in case of your top form, also perhaps some approach like simple discussion about train or bus being late etc.).

I'm sorry if my style is direct and anti- bs.

I feel like your downgrading yourself way too much bro.
It's ok, no offence taken - if you have some cool experience about women approaching you out of nowhere or rather unexpected, please feel free to share.
 

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- how often are you messaged first by distant aquaintances (females) that you have met just recently or on dating apps?
-"Distant acquaintes"(This can be defined in at least few billion ways)message me quite frequently, provided we haven't had a falling out or the like

- "how is interaction flowing with females that approach you first in non-romantic manner (i.e. how often it is in fact their way to approach you later in romantic manner or allow you to approach them like that)?"

That depends almost entirely upon how DTF I am when such events transpire. I'm not 19 anymore, so a pretty face and slinky body, in and of themselves, ARE NOT sufficient enough to lure me in. At least most of the time. A hellacious bout of gonnoreah + 1 attempted paternity extortion have prompted me to be far more cagey


"how often are you informed (whether directly or indirectly) that this or that woman is into you?"

Depends where I'm at, and what sort of social circles I'm moving in. The further up the food chain you are, the more furtive folks become, regarding their true thoughts and emotions. Women included, and often especially

"how direct are females about idea of being sexual.with you?"

Again, this depends on where I'm at, both geographically and socially. In trailer parks, ghettos, and barrios around the nation, 21 year old baby mamas with broods of 8 will mount you on a street corner, or in the back seat of an abandoned station wagon without much wooing, ESPECIALLY if they suspect you'll provide them with some material support afterwards

By contrast, if I'm swaggering through Beverly Hills or Manhattan a play mate won't break out the dirty talk, until we're making out in the elevator, on the way up to my(or her)room


"how often females simp for you/do you favours?"

If I'm keeping myself up(combing your hair, wearing fresh clothes, well-groomed, etc etc), quite often, insofar as small favors go. It ain't uncommon to get a free c-c-tail after ordering one at a bar, a few bucks off a meal, be bumped up on a schedule... Hell, sometimes other MEN(gay and straight alike)do likewise

Great news here is that even if you're not born with traditionally/classically handsome features, it's considerably easier for us men to glow up than it is for the ladies.... While there was never a damned thing Lilli Taylor could do to compete with Jennifers Connelly and Lopez, both Pete Davidson and Jeremy Alan White have transformed themselves into panty dropper extraordinares
 
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my ex wingman was very handsome. I'm not. But we went out together like twice per week to try to get have a beer and stuff so I can only answer from what I saw.

He got approached about 6 times per night on average

The openers girls used on him were USUALLY where they pretended to recognise him.
Sometimes girls would just open in what we call a direct way by telling him he was hot or even literally stroking his arm on the open etc. However this was typically older women like 25-30+. The really hot teenagers would also used the 'I recognise you' fake familiarity opener or they'd open him by telling him which celeb he looks like

edit: didn't read the OP properly. Didn't realise it was about dating apps lol
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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I'm just above average but I've almost never had a first date where the girl wasn't willing to put out. Not trying to flex, just being honest-- and to me It's not a big deal, just something I'm used to.

WheN i was active on dating apps, I'd get maybe 3-4 random girls messaging me first every week. The ratio was like 1 out of 6 of them were actually hot though.

Being approached first, when I used to go out more often, maybe once or twice a year. But if I initiated convo just like normal convo/rapport building like a 2 man or 3 man on a 2 or 3 set, one of the girls showing mad interest and taking the initiative, i would say this type of thing more like 4-5 a year. Sometimes its very blatant too like they are just giving me all the rope and not even tugging back a little.
 

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I fecked a woman without knowing her name. A woman took me home at a party she was at with her BOYFRIEND and he was waiting downstairs while I fecked her
Let's keep a moment of silence for the poor saps who are going to marry those women. :rolleyes:
 

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I had a friend that was really good looking. Women would approach him in bars all the time. He was pretty much clueless. He had no idea how to converse, yet these girls kept trying to get him to talk.
my friend can sit in a corner playing darts and find a woman to go home with.
This is awesome. I've never been good looking enough for this to happen to me.
 

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Yeah, my friend can sit in a corner playing darts and find a woman to go home with.
exactly the same as my ex wing lol
He was obsessed with fruit machines. Didn't even care about girls. Most nights he'd just find some dingey corner with a fruit machine in a bar and be fixated on the flashing lights and girls would STILL come to him and flirt and try to get him to take them home lol

I remember I once mentioned that in a field report back when i'd post them on seddit, and people were like 'Dude, they want him because he's not looking thirsty and is just doing his own thing!'. Pure blupilled cope! haha. Needless to say, when I spent my nights NOT approaching and just doing something like playing on the fruit machines i did NOT get hit on like seddit promised me would happen :) They'd all swallowed the 'girls aren't visual so it must be something else' PUA koolaid lol
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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