"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Question to DJs and LJBF zone

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One thing I always hear about is the LJBF zone and how you have to be an animal and pounce on the prey when it's ready. If you take too long then all you will do is waste the opportunity. What I don't get though is how there are some guys (I think here and out in life) that never land in this zone. They will even push the girl to try and just see him as a friend, but it doesn't happen. What makes these guys so damn irresistable to girls? Why is it that these girls will even chase these sort of guys for months and maybe even years? While I can agree that the method of perfect timing and reading the womans actions and thoughts should be enough to close the deal I want to know what makes the irressitable man irresistable EVEN when he does nothing or does the negative things to move the girl to think he is just a friend. Anyone ever encounter this or understand how it works?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This is the first time I've ever heard of this.
Its possible to make a girl chase you by putting HER in the LJBF zone before she does. I think it takes a certain type of girl, it doesn't work on ALL of them. More specifically, girls who really VALUE trust would be attracted to a guy who makes it clear beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is there specifically for a friendship.
This explains why married guys and gay guys can attract women better than normal guys.
 

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I've definately seen girls that see a guy that is cute, taken, don't see him for a while (maybe a year or 2 later) and still continue to think he is cute. Just think of the AFC of girls, but too proud to admit it. Some of these guys really don't even have to try, but it amazes me to see that these guys never lose these girls attention even if the girl eventually finds someone they (IMO) would probably be with him given the chance.

You can't tell me that there are women out there that never think about a guy they already know or knew and continue to like him even after extended periods of time.
 

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n00bPimp said:
This explains why married guys and gay guys can attract women better than normal guys.
And in both cases you are referring to men who have no need to chase women, i.e. married men have their wife at home and gay men have.. well .. they have men...LOL

That would indicate that modern liberal independent females have evolved into the chasing sex and prefer males that are not chasing!?

Buts its not that simple.. The "avaerage " gay cant just sit back , stop chasing and expect to be chases.. nope! Because 90% of women still only go for what they consider to be the top 10% of men... So the remaining 90% of males should probably still chase to some degree or risk being alone or forced into gayness..LOL
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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