Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

Read more...

question on a first date/meetup with a girl

WestMAN

New Member
Joined
Jul 27, 2011
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
i've had experiences where a girl will clearly be attracted to me, however, it ends up going stale because i don't know how/when to touch them to kino-escalate. and then the attraction withers away. i also have mini panic attacks when i run out of things to say and there's an awkward silence. what can i do for both of these situations?

thanks in advance
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

Read more...

Crissco

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 12, 2009
Messages
1,396
Reaction score
118
Age
39
Location
New York
Touch them when u first start talking to them. A kiss on the cheek, a hug, handshake with shoulder rub.

Kino throughout the date, high fives, teasing her while rubbing her shoulder/arm.
 

8ball

Don Juan
Joined
Oct 5, 2002
Messages
168
Reaction score
1
Location
USA
You're over thinking it. Relax. "Kino escalating"? Jeez... Be yourself...Make stupid wisecracks all night. Be funny. Don't worry about touching her. Just act like you own the place. At the end of the date, walk her to car/porch, look her in the eye, grab her tight around the waist, look her in the eye, say you had a nice time, and kiss her softly.

Just my humble opinion, but I've met with multiple successes with this approach.
 

WestMAN

New Member
Joined
Jul 27, 2011
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
8ball said:
You're over thinking it. Relax. "Kino escalating"? Jeez... Be yourself...Make stupid wisecracks all night. Be funny. Don't worry about touching her. Just act like you own the place. At the end of the date, walk her to car/porch, look her in the eye, grab her tight around the waist, look her in the eye, say you had a nice time, and kiss her softly.

Just my humble opinion, but I've met with multiple successes with this approach.
sometimes i can come up with something funny/witty, and other times i cant think of anything for the life of me.
 

8ball

Don Juan
Joined
Oct 5, 2002
Messages
168
Reaction score
1
Location
USA
Yeah, I get some dead spots...in dead spots where its all silent, ask her about her..what she likes...music, movies, what's a typical day at home, etc...It'll pan out....
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

Read more...

WestMAN

New Member
Joined
Jul 27, 2011
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
thebalrog said:
That's probably because you are focusing too much on what's NOT being said and the awkward silence. Used to happen a lot to me before, but I think I have reigned it in a little with the following:
- first of all, silence is not a bad thing. take that as time to make good eye contact and smile
- whatever you do, try not to think about how you're panicking. the more you do, the more it'll add up in your head with each passing second
- talk about something fun you did (or make it up) recently...helps to be prepared with somethings beforehand and reserve for moments like those
- ask questions! preferably open-ended ones that make her do the talking. That serves 2 purposes: girls love talking about themselves and also gives you fodder to make more convo based on somethings u pick up...
yea i would panic in my head sometimes when those awkward silences present themselves. i think you're right about having a handful of stories/topics/questions when the time calls for them. im not socially awkward or any of that **** and usually im great right off the bat. it's the finishing part i have trouble with. when it comes to open ended questions, that's actually very easy for me to do and i can come up with some really good unique ones that they like to answer. thats one thing i am good at. but sometimes i get too caught up in the conversation that i forget to continue to build attraction with her.
 

The_411

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 20, 2005
Messages
962
Reaction score
149
People naturally will talk about themselves.

Think of it like this:

Meet up say hello say hello.

Ask how they are

Girl will either say fine or expand

The key is using what she says to formulate questions.

If she doesn't say much then jokingly call her out. The key is to make sure that it comes off lighthearted which means smiling/chuckling/laughing when you say off the cuff remarks.

Too many guys are so worried about screwing up saying the wrong but in all honesty there are very few things you can say to "screw it" up. Most of the time the girl isn't into a guy, so even if you said all the right things got to business eventually your inner game isn't good enough to maintain something long term.

That's why using techniques that aren't attuned to you eventually will unravel your game.

Don't worry about when/if just do until she doesn't allow it and if she rejects you tease her. If that doesn't work then it wasn't going to work period.

Eveything is about you ability to be natural/flow and be relaxed, and accept that mistakes will happen. Women don't care about mistakes unless you harp on them.
 

Crissco

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 12, 2009
Messages
1,396
Reaction score
118
Age
39
Location
New York
The_411 said:
People naturally will talk about themselves.

Think of it like this:

Meet up say hello say hello.

Ask how they are

Girl will either say fine or expand

The key is using what she says to formulate questions.

If she doesn't say much then jokingly call her out. The key is to make sure that it comes off lighthearted which means smiling/chuckling/laughing when you say off the cuff remarks.

Too many guys are so worried about screwing up saying the wrong but in all honesty there are very few things you can say to "screw it" up. Most of the time the girl isn't into a guy, so even if you said all the right things got to business eventually your inner game isn't good enough to maintain something long term.

That's why using techniques that aren't attuned to you eventually will unravel your game.

Don't worry about when/if just do until she doesn't allow it and if she rejects you tease her. If that doesn't work then it wasn't going to work period.

Eveything is about you ability to be natural/flow and be relaxed, and accept that mistakes will happen. Women don't care about mistakes unless you harp on them.
Good post
 
Top