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Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Question of technique....calling vs. text messaging?

FM 3321

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To be honest, I haven't been very proactive in getting numbers from girls in clubs or public but I'm working on it.

For a question of technique do you think it's better to call a girl when you get her cell number or initiate contact with a text message? I found that I still feel a little nervous before calling so texting seems like a better option for now. What do you guys think?
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hey bro.....I know that you are going to be successful real soon, just hold on!

To answer your question, either method works...your best bet would be....that when you first meet her, set up the date right there and then get her numba or whatever.....just so you can call before you come....

As far as being nervous, just focus on maintaining a great positive attitude, and that will make you naturally display as fun, confident, and comfortable......even though, haha, you are a nervous wrack!

You are there buddy, just get out and knock em dead!
 

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the first couple of times youre going to ask her out, call her. leave the text messages until later, and theyre fun just to **** around with when youre bored.
 

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i always think calling is better- but what if say you call twice and no answer? happened to me and im thinking after waiting a week to just text her as a last resort to say sup- my # is an out of area so we'll see
 

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I don't think I've ever really used text messaging with a girl(save for a couple of times).

I mean, what's the point? It takes 10 times longer to type something out on the stupid number pad than it would to just say it.

And if you're in a situation where you absolutely can't talk, well, just wait until you can.
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Do whichever one is cheaper. That is if the girl isn't worth the money. Text messages at 10 cents a pop will put you in the poor house pretty quick. I usually don't call until after 9pm unless we are supposed to be doing something before that. Gotta save up those minutes for something that matters more...
 

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Text messages seem like a pvssy way to ask a girl out the first few times. Text messages are a way to communicate with someone you already have a lot going on with. You even said that the reason you want to text her is because you feel nervous. Girls know this, and if they get a text message early on, they will think you are not much of a man. Sack up and call, not text!
 

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FM 3321,

You seemed to act like you never talk to a girl in 20 years lol.

Call is very effective, make it short, have plan and ask her out.

Then have Fun! (Always) so you can get a second date!

So get your butt, move it!

hehehehe

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Originally posted by wind20mph
FM 3321,

You seemed to act like you never talk to a girl in 20 years lol.

Call is very effective, make it short, have plan and ask her out.

Then have Fun! (Always) so you can get a second date!

So get your butt, move it!

hehehehe

Peace and Piece

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Heh.......well I guess this thread does look like it. Meeting girls at clubs and in public is something I need to work on. House parties and meeting girls through mutual freinds is easy.


Anyway, I got 2 numbers over the weekend and texted one girl and called the other. The one I texted yesterday texted me today and the one I called tonight wasn't by her phone....no message was left. So everything now is just a learning experience with the ladies.
 

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Originally posted by PVSSY-EATER
Hey bro.....I know that you are going to be successful real soon, just hold on!

To answer your question, either method works...your best bet would be....that when you first meet her, set up the date right there and then get her numba or whatever.....just so you can call before you come....

As far as being nervous, just focus on maintaining a great positive attitude, and that will make you naturally display as fun, confident, and comfortable......even though, haha, you are a nervous wrack!

You are there buddy, just get out and knock em dead!
Cool........well if you look at my previous post it looks like texting works pretty well.

Also two weeks ago I met a very attractive girl and ended up text messaging her and she called me 20 minutes later. I didn't set up anything so I guess that's where I blew it. Gotta learn from my mistakes. ;)
 

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For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Depends on how well you know the person as well. And what the content of the msg is. For example, if you're inviting a girl to a general party or something like that just a simple message will do the trick, but if setting up a date, calling is usually the go.

Yes, I reckon msging is a the easy way out for a nervous afc. But if you call her, there's no rule that says you can't have a rough script to direct the conversation and anticipate what she might say, if you're really that nervous figure out what you're going to say and how you're going to say it.
 

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Texting is BAD. A text 'conversation' is mutual - meaning that you're unable to dominate it. It's easy for a girl to burn ya if you contact her via text. She can just not respond.

One of the funniest things happened to me last week. I got a txt message from some guy saying "Hi Jane it's tony...I like you...blah blah blah...let's go out sometime". Not only had some chick burned this guy by giving him the wrong number - he'd asked her out via text.

Chatting with chicks your interested in via text is wimpish. And i'm a bloody hypocrit because I did it last Friday. Four days later and no call...And this is a chick who's really into me.

Calling chicks is daunting at first - but when you start to push yourself out of "AFC mode" you'll notice you actually LIKE talking to women on the phone.
 

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texting is not all that bad guys....yall are misusing it thats all. i have chicks texting me all the time, i just text them back a couple of times, and i make sure shes the one that sends the last message. not all that bad, girls get bored sometimes they pick their cell phones up and start texting
 

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i have chicks texting me all the time, i just text them back a couple of times, and i make sure shes the one that sends the last message.
Yeah, you know why they do this? Because they have no guts to pick up the phone and call you! I used to have chicks text me every single day... NOT ONE would get the courage to actually call.. text messaging is the easy way out... i used to abuse it and now im against it

unless you already know a girl real well..
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I text alot but since becoming a RAFC I'm pretty puzzled about when and how to use them

For example, I've just finished my first year of college and I met this chick there. We never really admitted we fancied each other until after the exams and then we both went home (at different ends of the country).

Now she wants to meet up during the summer. I suppose to become fu<k buddies.

But we never call each other, we only talk on msn and text each other. I'm currently trying to phase msn out of my life because it is pretty afc-ish.

But for instance, today she sent me a text message saying that she was sun bathing at the Milton keynes bowl watching the Green Day show and she asks me what I'm doing. That was this afternoon and I still havent texted back yet.

I'm unsure whether to text her back or just leave it completely and call her sometime.

What do you guys think?
 

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From what I've gathered here you only call to set up dates and you make sure the convo is short. So since shes out of reach might as well just text until you can see her.
 

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Originally posted by medjaun
From what I've gathered here you only call to set up dates and you make sure the convo is short. So since shes out of reach might as well just text until you can see her.
Cheers man.

I'm thinking of keeping it C+F over the texts.
 
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