How persisten are you usually with women. Usually i give up pretty soon as there is plenty of fish in the pond but thne i start thinking of a few couples i know where the dude was persistent while he girl wasn't "interested" (one of those couples lasted for 5 years). Women usually don't know what they want and i'm not here to really tell them "here i am" but i'm sure that my quick "move-ons" are sometimes hurtfull.