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Question...fumbled bag

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Ok.
When dudes talk....they say she fumbled the bag.
Meaning she had it made with a dude with money.
My question is...when do dudes fumble the "bag"?
A dude has his money in order, his lifestyle for him.
But if he lets a "good girl" go...is that fumbling?




Im only asking because i let two " good" girls go.
I had an inner sense.
And now im more guarded as to who i let in my house.
Is that the male equivalence of fumbling the bag?
Had a good girl ...but then again...how would i know?
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Maybe im not explaining myself so well....
We have feelings too...and i would love kisses and hugs and listen to sweet nothing whispers..
But also its two weeks until my birthday, and i got my family, my two homies, but no girl.
So did i fumble?
 

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Fumbling the bag is the same as dropping the ball. In dating terms, it means failing to start a relationship or hook up with a girl when everything was perfectly set up for you, simply because you messed it up.
 

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Fumbling the bag is the same as dropping the ball. In dating terms, it means failing to start a relationship or hook up with a girl when everything was perfectly set up for you, simply because you messed it up.
But, if one decides to not pick up a particular ball?
There was a girl...but something felt "off"...
I didnt mess up.
Maybe remorse?
 

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Im only asking because i let two " good" girls go.
I had an inner sense.
And now im more guarded as to who i let in my house.
Chill, you did the right thing which is trusting your senses because something was off.
All girls are good until they're not..

I operated on dropping a woman, or not picking up, if she reminds me of some past gf, in a bad way
{Eg, mixed messages = playing games = F that}
..and by a process of selectivity, I ended up with a "unicorn", but I had to go through some trash to recognise her as such
But also its two weeks until my birthday, and i got my family, my two homies, but no girl
You're operating from a scarcity mindset.
You don't need no girl to celebrate your birthday, and even if you did have one, it sounds like you're riding a lot of hopes on what she might do for you on your special day.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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My question is...when do dudes fumble the "bag"?
Volumes could be, and have been, written on this subject, hoss. For starters though: There's no shortage of fellas who APPEAR to have their "money in order", and a "lifestyle" for themselves, yet wuss out, the minute life ceases to be placid. Ex:

Both Spader and Lowe are handsome guys, clearly have a few bucks in their pocket, and aren't socially what we'd call underclassmen. Only one though(Lowe)displays something of a backbone, refuses to be intimidated by a potential opponent who's physically larger and quite possibly stronger than himself

Looks, money, and status are of minimal benefit, to "men" who lack a virile edge. Thus, it ain't uncommon for the dissatisfied housewives of moneyed yet wimpy businessmen to take up with tatted up, meth dealing landscapers in real life
 
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Looks, money, and status are of minimal benefit, to "men" who lack a virile edge. Thus, it ain't uncommon for the dissatisfied housewives of moneyed yet wimpy businessmen to take up with tatted up, meth dealing landscapers in real life

I once dated a bored trophy house wife going through a divorce. They owned two mansions on the same street. He lived in the other one. The house had heated floors, electric toilets, wine cellar, humidor room, cases of expensive wine delivered on a weekly basis and a Lamborghini and a few Porsches in the garage. They also had access to a private jet that they would use for spur of the moment trips.

Her husband was a degreed accountant that led a financial investment company. He was that guy you described. Boring, mundane, over weight, true beta provider.

I was the guy that was wild, looked good, had an edge, lots of fun, and supplied good dihk. I wasn't selling meth, but I was selling a good time! Our first date included us swapping cars and seeing who could go the fastest. We are talking over 150mph down a major metro corridor. Chic was crazier than I was.

Once she told me there were many women just like her in the neighborhood and if I wasn't so cheap I could probably have a shot with them too! lol, I told her to bring her friends over for some pool time, I wanted to meet them too.

They even made a reality show off the people that lived in this wealthy neighborhood. It was full of drama, plastic surgery, and plenty of cash.
 

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Looks, money, and status are of minimal benefit, to "men" who lack a virile edge. Thus, it ain't uncommon for the dissatisfied housewives of moneyed yet wimpy businessmen to take up with tatted up, meth dealing landscapers in real life

I once dated a bored trophy house wife going through a divorce. They owned two mansions on the same street. He lived in the other one. The house had heated floors, electric toilets, wine cellar, humidor room, cases of expensive wine delivered on a weekly basis and a Lamborghini and a few Porsches in the garage. They also had access to a private jet that they would use for spur of the moment trips.

Her husband was a degreed accountant that led a financial investment company. He was that guy you described. Boring, mundane, over weight, true beta provider.

I was the guy that was wild, looked good, had an edge, lots of fun, and supplied good dihk. I wasn't selling meth, but I was selling a good time! Our first date included us swapping cars and seeing who could go the fastest. We are talking over 150mph down a major metro corridor. Chic was crazier than I was.

Once she told me there were many women just like her in the neighborhood and if I wasn't so cheap I could probably have a shot with them too! lol, I told her to bring her friends over for some pool time, I wanted to meet them too.

They even made a reality show off the people that lived in this wealthy neighborhood. It was full of drama, plastic surgery, and plenty of cash.
Money is only alluring to people who don't have it. If you are struggling to pay bills and put food on the table, money may seem like everything. But once you're past the threshold where you can afford to live comfortably and not worry about the daily grind, it no longer matters that much.

Guys like the accountant in your story work hard because it gives their lives a sense of meaning. He pours himself into his work. His wife, on the other hand, is bored as fvck leading a luxurious yet completely meaningless existence. If you are going to have a stay-at-home wife, you better have several kids as well and no nannies or servants. After a full day of changing diapers, cleaning and cooking, I can guarantee that she won't be doing "150 mph down a major metro corridor".
 

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But, if one decides to not pick up a particular ball?
There was a girl...but something felt "off"...
I didnt mess up.
Maybe remorse?
If you didn’t mess up then it is not “fumbling the bag” nor “dropping the ball”.
 

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Guys like the accountant in your story work hard because it gives their lives a sense of meaning. He pours himself into his work
Fellas like this are the more "up scale" equivalent of the shelf stockers who tune into The Lotus Eaters and Fresh&Fit religiously, and actually mistake everything they hear for The Gospel Truth, rather than the junior high level graffiti on a public lavatory wall(The Internet)that it is

They're are all doing their damndest to NOT acknowledge those more "icky" aspects of their existences, avoid engaging in serious self-reflection
 
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I was the guy that was wild, looked good, had an edge, lots of fun, and supplied good dihk. I wasn't selling meth, but I was selling a good time! Our first date included us swapping cars and seeing who could go the fastest. We are talking over 150mph down a major metro corridor
 

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Volumes could be, and have been, written on this subject, hoss. For starters though: There's no shortage of fellas who APPEAR to have their "money in order", and a "lifestyle" for themselves, yet wuss out, the minute life ceases to be placid. Ex:

Both Spader and Lowe are handsome guys, clearly have a few bucks in their pocket, and aren't socially what we'd call underclassmen. Only one though(Lowe)displays something of a backbone, refuses to be intimidated by a potential opponent who's physically larger and quite possibly stronger than himself

Looks, money, and status are of minimal benefit, to "men" who lack a virile edge. Thus, it ain't uncommon for the dissatisfied housewives of moneyed yet wimpy businessmen to take up with tatted up, meth dealing landscapers in real life

I don't think people should aspire to be like the people they see in films.

They are given whatever devices the writer decides to move the story in the direction they want it to go. Using these guys as an example isn't as transferable to real life as many men might expect.
 

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Money is only alluring to people who don't have it
Cash is beneficial to us individually, and not really anyone else... We can count on half of one hand the number of .com billionaires who are panty droppers to the ladies, or/and the sort of guys who "regular men" admire for anything other than their financial success. No one but a hardcore D&D fanatic finds the thought of dining with Zuckerberg, Gates, etc etc especially appealing
 

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I once dated a bored trophy house wife going through a divorce. They owned two mansions on the same street. He lived in the other one. The house had heated floors, electric toilets ...
I would NOT want my Throne to be an electric chair. :eek::eek::eek::eek:
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Money is only alluring to people who don't have it. If you are struggling to pay bills and put food on the table, money may seem like everything. But once you're past the threshold where you can afford to live comfortably and not worry about the daily grind, it no longer matters that much.

Guys like the accountant in your story work hard because it gives their lives a sense of meaning. He pours himself into his work. His wife, on the other hand, is bored as fvck leading a luxurious yet completely meaningless existence. If you are going to have a stay-at-home wife, you better have several kids as well and no nannies or servants. After a full day of changing diapers, cleaning and cooking, I can guarantee that she won't be doing "150 mph down a major metro corridor".
The presumptions made here are massive. I'll take the other side. Her kids were probably out of the house, and was the way you envisioned until those kids were out of the house. You don't know what people are like behind closed doors. Maybe the fat, overworked slob was a massive prick, who as part of a series of apologies bought her a bunch of toys (in the bedroom too). You need look know further than Veronica Bryant, because otherwise she would have gotten the lions share of what he made during their marriage, and you know what, she has a right to it. You can't ask her on one hand to hand her entire life over, literally the best physical and producing years of her existence, with almost no prospects of earning an income later in life, and not expect to have her compensated for swapping that time out. He wanted a family and he did not raise that family, he was out working (was he really working all that time?) Most women file, not men.

Men here have to realize something - if you want to move beyond seduction and in fact, not 'fumble the bag' (a term I am only hearing here for the first time), you must have give and take. I'm not saying to lose your sense of self, and you have to remain exciting and fun, but you can't think you're just shacking a slave down for life, that's not how it works in the 21st century. That's an expensive mistaken way to go about it.
 

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The presumptions made here are massive. I'll take the other side. Her kids were probably out of the house, and was the way you envisioned until those kids were out of the house. You don't know what people are like behind closed doors. Maybe the fat, overworked slob was a massive prick, who as part of a series of apologies bought her a bunch of toys (in the bedroom too).
Whether or not he is a prick is completely irrelevant. People don't just become pricks overnight. It's a lifelong journey. Certainly, she would have known that he was a prick by the time she said "yes" to the marriage proposal.

The bottom line is that providing a luxurious lifestyle for an idle wife is one of the dumbest things you can possibly do as a man. It's not just bad for you but also for her. Upscale neighbourhoods around the country are filled with bored housewives who abuse alcohol and prescription drugs, cheat on their husbands, fail in their parental responsibilities and prop up the psychotherapy industry. This is a story as old and time. In just about every old fairly tale, the queen is presented as a tragic, cruel and/or unhappy character. That's no coincidence.
 

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I don't understand what you're asking OP so you had 2 "Good girls" and now you're wondering if you messed up
why did you let them go?

Sounds like you're dealing with FOMO-fear of missing out. I would need more context but if for whatever reason there was no compatibility, attraction or something etc. IDK I mean it's to much to assume, sometimes a person may be good doesn't mean they are good for you
 

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A male billionaire ( or millionaire) is the equivalent of a good ,loyal, steady, mentally sane and yet beautiful woman.

Ofcourse this statement can be argued against, but get my point...that's how I make my view pointeasy and as " meat and potato " as possible. Ask some men how had all the money in the world yet they went to the graveyard without ever enjoying such a woman but only dealt with uncooperative women.

YOU as a man should be a "fumbled bag" to ANY woman you'll encounter. How? Money, game, mouthpiece, physique ect. Make sure you're a top tier dude ,and if you ain't work on it.

My law, my philosophy and I live by that.
 
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