"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Question for you college graduates

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i am just making this topic to see how many people got a degree in something and got a job that has something/nothing to do with their degree... so please answer this

If you completed college:
what was your degree in
what career did you end up taking off with afterward?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I don't need no doggone college. I ain't no fancy boy.
 

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mpimpin, this isn't the 20s, anyone can go to college.
 

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I haven't finished college yet, but my ex-boss was a solid state phycisist with a PhD doing complex mathematical marketing research for a chemical company. My dad does the same thing with a PhD in chemistry (for another company not related to the chemical industry). Lots of engineers end up doing marketing or consulting.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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well I studied music, and I teach music at a private school. But I had a lot of strange and random jobs before reaching this point (carpenter, English teacher, commercial fisherman, translator).
 

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BS in Electronics Engineering, finishing off my MS in Electrical Engineering
I work in Power Utilities here in LA. I love my job :up:
 

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mpimpin said:
I don't need no doggone college. I ain't no fancy boy.
FTR I was only joking. I'm still in college.
 

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BS - Economics of Environmental Policy Making
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A Bachalors and Masters in mechanical engineering.
I work as a project mechanical engineer now. My "career" just started, so no real thoughts on it yet. The sitting behind a desk bit is rather boring. Just got a new job that looks like a good blend of everything - I am keeping my fingers crossed hoping it'll be better than my last job.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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B.S.- Sociology
Job- Fraud Investigator

But it really doesn't matter what you graduate with. It's not an Advanced Degree.
 

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Sandow said:
B.S.- Sociology
Job- Fraud Investigator

But it really doesn't matter what you graduate with. It's not an Advanced Degree.
it kind of matters thought. i couldnt get a degree in political science and then go do business marketing in real life. or could i...
 

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Of course you can. My brother was a chemistry major and now works in Human Resources. My other friend was a womens studies major and she is now assistant manager at a rental car company.

A B.A. is not an advanced degeree, meaning it's very liberal and doesn't necessarily prepare you for a certain profession. It basically just means, "hey look at me I'm educated and I can make committments and follow through on them." There are some degrees that are more specific and may help (like engineering) if you want to be an engineer. But generally speaking, graduating college doesn't prepare you for a specific profession. Just makes u look educated. If you really want to specialize in something than you can get a masters or ph.d (M.D., J.D., M.B.A.)
 

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Rhoto said:
BS - Economics of Environmental Policy Making
Job - Financial Planner/Advisor
how do you like that job?
im taking financial management and i have an option of specializing in financial planning. the other option is financial services. i dont know which one i should choose.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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what the hell is the point of college if you dont take classes preparing you in jobs that you get when you get out? lol.
 

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I currently work for UPS, but it's a temp job.

I'm actually continuing on with school to later be a nurse, so my degree will be related to my career
 

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I don't like to get too cynical, but college is not what "they" say it is. It depends on the degree, but after you graduate from college and see "the real world", you look back and see the whole system was a scam.

They sell you on this dream of, "earn a college degree, and that's how you'll be successful". They paint this picture of blue skies, a picket fence, and you can go off and be successful.

But no one points out the huge variance in degrees, and the variance across the country (with housing, rent, cost of living). In a lot of cities, a degree means very little or anything (after student loan paybacks, rent, etc).

Not every degree of course, like engineering or law. But the system tries to paint this happy, all encompassing answer. So be wary. And keep your critical thinking skills in college.

Degree, '04 in Finance.

Current job, marketing related.
 

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There was an article on it, but a degree these days isn't nearly what it was 15 years ago. In the past, people with B.A.'s made a lot more money than they do now. There could be a lot of reasons for this. So many people have degrees now that the value has significantly dropped. Employoyers mostly look for experience instead.

I used to think that going to a good university mattered too. Well I was wrong on that. Frankly they don't really care. I'm kind of pissed because I busted my a$$ to get into a UC and it now doesn't matter.

What a B.A. will do however, is get you in the door. It'll allow you to interview for a job but after that it's pretty much meaningless. I guess it makes you look educated but that's about it. Though some jobs do require at least a B.A. for your credentials. But employers are figuring out that experience is more important than a degree.
 

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Academic Acheivement VS Academic Attainment.

It's what you know VS what you can legally say you know. (I.E. Degree)

Unless it's a very specific degree your after (like the mechanics of quantum neutrino fields/ Wonton Burrito Fields) it's just basically showing that you can take on responsibilities without flaking.

Unless you go into trades. That's different since you can't study electricity and end up a gas technician.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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