"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Question for the FEMALE posters here

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I have a different question............why are you girls on this site in the first place? What could you possibly be getting out of this website that is making your life "more productive" in any shape or form?

Not to say all of the female posters are crap, but what I do see is a lot of female posters on here coming against many of the major Truth Teller/Red Pill Posters to seek to get them banned behind the scenes. These certain female posters are even buddy buddy with just about every Moderator on here, just READY to PM her favorite Moderator about "banning Tenacity because Tenacity said some naughty, naughty words".

In my opinion, a chick being an active member of The Manosphere is like a Gay guy being an active subscriber to Playboy magazine. I could understand SCROLLING through every now and again, but to be an active subscriber? On a recurring daily basis? Makes no sense whatsoever.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I guess because it's mainly guys here looking for advice?

But I do actually have a question you can maybe help with:

Thanksgiving weekend (Canadian thanksgiving) my cousin got into an argument with her boyfriend and he walked away. She was about to follow him and I told her to leave him to cool off. She got mad at me for that. I explained that maybe he needed some space because it was getting too heated and to just give him that. Another guy there agreed with me and this other guy said no she should go to him and sort it out.

It was a dumb argument about something that happened at his work, nothing serious.

Was I wrong to tell her to give him some space?
No you weren't wrong at all. Tell her to read "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus". Men go to their cave(walk off) to reflect/analyze/make sense of a situation then reappear when they feel comfortable talking about the issue in a rational manner with significant other. Women call up their bitchy girlfriends and have an emotionally fueled & irrational bash session under the influence of cheap wine while telling lies to each other! :)
 
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No you weren't wrong at all. Tell her to read "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus". Men go to their cave(walk off) to reflect/analyze/make sense of a situation then reappear when they feel comfortable talking about the issue in a rational manner with significant other. Women call up their bitchy girlfriends and have an emotionally fueled & irrational bash session under the influence of cheap wine! :)
The fact is.. Men and women are totally different

https://handwritingtech.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/mens-from-mars-and-women-from-venus.pdf
 

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BeExcellent and LiveYourDream stand out as two that are here to learn. Also, they contribute some solid material. They are both thinkers!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I have a different question............why are you girls on this site in the first place? What could you possibly be getting out of this website that is making your life "more productive" in any shape or form?
I read tons of psychology-- dating, personality, business, criminal. that reminds me that I want to get "lessons learned from the bad, the mad and the sad" it's about hostage negotiation. does this make me more productive? no. it's just interesting to me.

as far as the manosphere.... it's good to read that perspective. makes me sad though that "his needs, her needs" is not mentioned. it's such a great book by willard harley with practical advice. if manosphere experts don't like it, then say why. experts should be more well read imo.

edit: harley's work was originally published in 1986, so before bloggers.
 
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