question for experienced (master) don juans only

[IRONMAN22]

Ok so we can all work on our game a little bit more always right? As Ive posted already before I dont know how many times, I lost my best looking gal, I also realized how much looks DO matter, because thats how I nailed her to begin with.

Now this is the solution, I lost her because I was being too self absorbed (****y but also nervous at the same time sound right?) See Im used to making the boldest of moves.. Ive met older broads before, but it moves so damn fast that we'll almost be ****in by the end of the night. For this broad I actually had to have a normal convo. and I couldnt accomplish that, Ive heard of rapport, but how exactly am I doing this? What Im thinking is asking questions about her, thus taking attention off of me, but what or where is this gonna lead to? I need some assurance here. Cmon Master Don Juans show me some skill brothas

 

[Desdinova]

What I've used for my actual "pickup lines" is making a comment about the surroundings or about the woman's appearance or actions in general (note: I don't tell her she's pretty, or she walks sexy, or any of that 5hit), but I'll make a comment about a piece of her clothing, or something as mundane as seeing some guy up on a ladder painting and elaborate on that either truthfully, or fictionally (ie. "If he fell off that ladder, he'd be covered in yellow paint. He'd be a human banana... a dead human banana!") A normal conversation usually will consist of just about everything such as the surroundings, the current news, or certain experiences in yours or the woman's lives.

Perhaps someone else can elaborate on the finer points of conversation.

 

[IRONMAN22]

I can definetly see where you are coming from, but yes someone needs to elaborate, this is the topic, how to keep that broad, having a convo. that doesnt make her unattracted to you, makes her think something like "wow he listens I like him", or "I want more." Ive got the rest down because like I said I can make the boldest of moves.

 

[BrotherAP]

So you're saying that you've chiefly relied on your looks to get girls in the past? Congratulations, you must be a good looking dude.

As far as rapport goes, it is always good to focus the conversation on her through asking questions. You have to lead from simple vague questions to lead into more in depth discussion and always have it be about her while throwing in some of your own impressions or stories. Don't bore her with a bunch of questions like some relatives do when they haven't seen you for 10 years. Instead of bombarding her with "Where do live? where do you work? how old are you? where did you go to shcool? whats your favorite color?" etc, start with one basic question and expand on that.

i.e.

you: "Where are you from" <---- (initial boring question, gathers information to expand on)
her: new york city
you: it feels quite different not to be so surrounded by people all the time, I bet
her: totally! I really like being able to go somewhere where your totally alone
you: yeah, it's nice to have be able to take a deep breath and relax. sometimes it's nice to have someone there with you, too
her: yeah (quietly - she's busy thinking about your suggestion)
you: I know a really nice place over by the... (then, of course, you'd invite her to come check it out with you)

that's just an example, a bit romance novel-esque but you get the point. Imagine if, when she said she was from NY, instead you just did this:

her: im from NYC
you: cool. im from colorado. where you born there?
her: yeah...
you: cool. how old are you again?
her: nineteen
you: did you graduate from high school in 04?
her: yeah.
you: cool. I was class of 03
her: hey - I have to go find my friends.
you: oh, yeah, go ahead

 

[IRONMAN22]

touche

theres the answer ... genius BrotherAP, I would say more but you already know whatsup


by the way, yeah I did rely I looks alot, because I know I look good, I would just rely on my extremely bold moves to save me and hope this broad becomes obsessed, but obviously this last broad is alot older and more experienced, and she didnt need to become obessed with me well because shes so damn perfect herself lol...

anyway, lets keep it going, obviously Im gonna need to go out and practice this **** before I can get it down right, but its very ENLIGHTENING...