Question about your morals

[ohiofutballa]

Alright well right now im in a predicament and i need to talk to you guys about it.

Right now i have a hb9 as a gf and weve been dating for about 4-5 months. I was her first kiss and first "real" boyfriend.I have fingered her a couple of times, and have gotten a handjob about a dozen times.(i have tried 10 times for every time i actually got some) lately though ive gotten some almost everytime we are alone because she is getting comfortable with it. Now me and her a really close and she and i havent fought in the 5 months that weve been dating. It will take another 4 months at LEAST to get her in bed. I know that when we do have sex it will happen very often. but she said that giving hed is "gross" She is of course naive, me being her first real bf, and saying that well be together for the rest of high school and well get married.

I see alot of "inspirational quotes" that say not to miss out on opportunities, so i think about all the girls i pass up. Im not exaggerating about this, but if i were to break up with my gf today i could have sex with three difffernt girls by tuesday and these aren't your everyday street trash wh0res these are hb8's. But what would be a bigger opportunity to miss out on, a possible dozen girls str or a single ltr. maybe its just sexual frustration that has me thinking like this. But i dont want to look back on this when im 30 and say ****, i should have just broke up with her and ****ed as many girls as possible....I also dont want to say ****, i should have stayed with her, the sex would have been worth it.

Ill admit my one weakness here on this site to you guys right now, shes said shes in love with me and ill admit it feels like it rubbed off onto me, but i dont know if im actually in love or if its just my fear of being alone that makes this feeling towards her.

So heres my question to you, if you were me a good looking and good with the ladies man, would you stay with the one( who is one of the hottest in my grade) and wait for the sex to happen or would you opt out of that deal and seek just sex from multiple girls.

And please for your responses, i dont want 15 year old horndogs coming on here saying get all the poon you can get. I want an honest answer from you guys.

Ohiofutballa

 

[TonyTheTigerOI]

First of all - she doesnt love you. This is very important. She wouldnt take a bullet for you - she wont even suck your ****, lol.

Second - get her to suck your ****, lol. Lay naked with her, finger her FIRST and get her to finish. DO NOT ASK FOR A HANDJOB. Just make out with her, touch her softly [all over, not just downtown]. Look DEEP in her eyes. GET HER HORNY AGAIN!!! She might get horny and want to get you off, just jokingly take her hand off you and put them on her chest/arms/neck and tell her to wait. KEEP AROUSING HER. Once shes really wet AGAIN slowly kiss down her body - go down on her. If she says its disgusting just tell her it isnt, and you want her to feel how wonderful it is. Look up how to do it if you dont know. If you can get her to finish with just your hand she should finish WAY fast between your tounge AND hands. When she finishes again just kiss your way back up, and repeat what you did before. Slowly kissing and touching her. Make sure and put your weight on her so she can feel your **** hard against her [sounds weird, but its so ****ing important]. When she starts to reach for you again, or when she gets horny again, tell her how sexy she is [whatever **** u usually say when shes workin u - just more enthusiastic]. Dont let her get a good rhythme going tho... just keep kissing and touching her, take her hand off you if you have to. Tell her you are unbelievably horny [however u wanna phrase it]. When you are ready, tell her "put your hands on me." I HOPE you dont do this dry... but, make sure and tell her to "get your hands wet." And tell her how good it feels. After a minute, pull her to u and kiss her, look into her eyes and tell her to "put your mouth on me." Dont ASK. TELL HER, and as soon as the words are out of your mouth KISS HER so she cant argue. Then pull away [from the kiss] and lean back/relax. If she argues just tell her its not disgusting, it feels wonderful and you want to feel that way.

Ive done this with 3 girls, 1 had never given head... 1 just hated doing it. If you go slow enough, and you get her to finish and get her horny again, shell go down. Dont be afraid to b stern - you went down on her and got her off TWICE... she should ****in ride you like a mechanical bull for gods sake.

Third... you coulndt **** 3 dif girls if you broke up with her. The reason they want you so bad is cuz you are WITH someone and its GREAT. If I was you... id go to a party, have a beer but carry the bottle around [so u can tell use ur unclear mind as a scapegoat if worste comes to worst] and find one of those girls. Flirt and have fun with her, and the ntell her your gonna go get something to eat and she should come. Then take her to the back of ur car. DO NOT TELL ANYONE. DONT BRAG. Just have fun.

Fourth... dont do that untill your girl gives you head 2x.

Fith... after she gets more comfortable with head... repeat the BJ paragraph over, only with sex.

Sixth - have sex with her and other girls at your hearts content.

Summation:
... take control of the situation!

 

[xomel]

^^ is that lorenzo up there? I think he has a very jerk approach to this problem, sure it will give you quick head but its bad in the long run if you plan to spend a while with her, also it makes sex harder.

You're missing a few things here.

Communication - I honestly dont think its as hard as that just talk about it. It's called communication. Tell her it's communication. Tell her "I understand we arent ready yet, and because you dont want to do it then we arent going to do it yet but I'd still like to know why?" It removes the pressure and lets her answer honestly.

How I've gotten 3/3 of the girls that havent done it before that Ive gotten *******s from to do it the first time is just

"Im hard, can you do something about it?"

Tell her you dont like handjobs, that youve done it 100 times more than she has and you are really good. That they are overrated and nothing special. I have seriously never gotten a complete handjob, just some ****tease, like 10-15 seconds worth. It's pointless

Have you dry humped before? If you dont know what that is, its sex with clothes on DlCK INSIDE PANTS, just rubbing.Thats a very key fairground between touching and sex. You express your love for eachother without sex. To dry hump just start making out then start rubbing her breast with one hand and the vaginal area with the other, then start humping that area. Let her get comfertable with it, let her orgasim off it.

Another thing is she does not feel comfertable with you it seems. Ask her if she trusts you. Put her on a guilt trip for not trusting you. You are actually putting her on a guilt trip for not sucking your **** but its disguised as a guilt trip for not trusting you.

attraction = make out
feelings = dry hump
comfertable with you = naked
trust = oral sex
love = sex

 

[TonyTheTigerOI]

is that lorenzo up there? I think he has a very jerk approach to this problem, sure it will give you quick head but its bad in the long run if you plan to spend a while with her, also it makes sex harder.

-Yeah, its me. Its not jerk, its the complete opposite. You simply convey your feelings for her thru your actions [pleasuring her] and allow her to become horny enough to express her feelings for you [pleasuring you]. And it makes sex easier. This approach to the situation is ideal because you dont force her to do anything, you make her want to - and give her an EXCUSE to. Her friends probably think its disgusting, too. She probably wants to try it, jsut because of hearing about it in movies [balblabla], but wont cuz of social pressure. By setting example and "taking blame" [give her oral, then telling her to] you take all that social pressure away.

You're missing a few things here.

-No, Im not.

Communication - I honestly dont think its as hard as that just talk about it. It's called communication. Tell her it's communication. Tell her "I understand we arent ready yet, and because you dont want to do it then we arent going to do it yet but I'd still like to know why?" It removes the pressure and lets her answer honestly.

-Actually, that lets her affirm in her mind that she is right and your desires are wrong... when there is NOTHING unhealthy about oral sex. Its counter productive for the relationship and her/you as a person [everyone should be completely comfortable with their own sexuality].

How I've gotten 3/3 of the girls that havent done it before that Ive gotten *******s from to do it the first time is just

"Im hard, can you do something about it?"

Tell her you dont like handjobs, that youve done it 100 times more than she has and you are really good. That they are overrated and nothing special. I have seriously never gotten a complete handjob, just some ****tease, like 10-15 seconds worth. It's pointless

-This works, sure. But this is way jerkier than what I proposed - because your not setting an example and you are still ASKING which makes it so she is still to blame - all that social pressure is still there. Its just not as effective.

Have you dry humped before? If you dont know what that is, its sex with clothes on DlCK INSIDE PANTS, just rubbing.Thats a very key fairground between touching and sex. You express your love for eachother without sex. To dry hump just start making out then start rubbing her breast with one hand and the vaginal area with the other, then start humping that area. Let her get comfertable with it, let her orgasim off it.

-Great point... dryhumping is key. Its simply a progression towards sex instead of head... how i said put your weight on her so she can feel you... thats how you START dry humping. To continue, just rock your hips with the rhythm of your kiss. Once she gets the rhythm and is very arroused she will move to the rhythm too... at this point let her get on top so she can do what feels best for her [either way itll feel good for you, especially after shes done and she finishes you].

Another thing is she does not feel comfertable with you it seems. Ask her if she trusts you. Put her on a guilt trip for not trusting you. You are actually putting her on a guilt trip for not sucking your **** but its disguised as a guilt trip for not trusting you.

-Thats just ****ing stupid. Women are complicated... why ADD complication unnessesarily? This is completely unwarrented - and it will result in bad oral, and you wont get it again after that. But if you coax her slowly and sentually into it, shell have a good experience and want to do it again [just like how she gives HJs more often now].

attraction = make out
feelings = dry hump
comfertable with you = naked
trust = oral sex
love = sex

-Oh shut up. The only girl ive "loved" all I did was make out with. And I have sex with girls all the time. Stop preaching.

 

[ohiofutballa]

ok i liked the responses i got and thanks for the thought


Ok I know she will eventually give me hed, its just when we would talk about it, she always said she thought it was gross. this is a very CLEAN girl i mean shes obssesive about being clean, one time at a football game someone spilled a powerade on her and she left for home to go shower. shes just wierd like that. See she doesnt think her giving me hed is just gross, she thinks me eating out is even more repulsive. She just doesnt think the mouth should go there. sorry i didnt bring that up in my first post.

Also Tony i know i can **** those three girls, because i already have, and theyve been wanting seconds for awhile.

We Dry Hump alot so thats covered.

But the post wasnt just about her giving me hed and sex, it was am i wasting some prime years of my life with this girl. Im still in high school and this girl is talking about going out for years and marriage and ****. I mean the sex will be worth it waiting for, but will it be worth sacrificing 9 months to a year waiting, while i could easily squeeze in sex with 4-5 girls in 3 to 4 months.

I guess its a question of my morals, and what i want to happen in my high school years.

 

[xomel]

just go with it bud. Tell her you dont mind waiting, you just want to be in love with her blah blah blah this and that "yes we'll get married some day" be sweet. yes it actually works. Just get her to think that you wont, then do it. I know it might seem mean of you, but isnt it mean of her to make you wait when you really like her that much?

Just say you dont care if you have sex, you just wanna be with her. "Even if you had a penis id still love you"


you dont actually love her that much you just make her think you do. you just make her think you dont want sex. you actually do though.

 

[Supero Masculus]

Ok, and what will making her think you don't want sex acomplish? Making her think your gay? Dude, don't hide it. Just go with it.

 

[xomel]

Supero Masculus, you have the right mind but this is the wrong situation. This is not a matter of speed seduction, hes spent 5 months with this girl. I know youve prolly read the bible five times over again but just reading the bible wont solve it. She has to feel really comfertable with him and think that he really really loves her, even if he couldnt have sex, he would still be with her. Of course its implied that you want sex but if she doesnt want to then its totally cool. If she was cool with sex then you could say you want it but she obviously isnt cool with it.

"Yeah I'd have sex if you offered it but I'd want the situation to be perfect. But even if we could never have sex or even make out I'd still want to spend time with you."

Sorry,
speed seduction does not equal getting sex from a relationship. She will begin to question her morals and you will encounter ASD up the butt. Her teachings have taught her that its "wrong."

And by the way all guys want sex. It makes her think your special. Every girl knows guys want sex. And if you are in the middle of being sexual with a girl you obviously arent gay.

Please, dont just preach on what you hear or read from the bible go out and experience seduction first.

 

[LikRetsam]

When you are incapable of helping the thread starter, I suggest you don't post about something he doesn't care about to make up for the fact that you can't help him. It makes you look like an idiot.

Xomel, first you tell Supero Masculus he's read the bible 5 times over and then you tell him not to believe everything he's read in the bible... Did you realise he's been here longer than you and that *maybe* it's his own damn opinion?

Ohio, your name makes me think you're a smacktard. Anyways, why are you worrying about when you're 30? You're already setting yourself up for regret by trying to avoid it by making sacrifices. I don't see why having '3 girls that want to screw you' would influence you in any way. That is, if you are the good looking ladies man you say you are, then that situation should be the norm. Not some factor in staying with your girlfriend.

If you want something and she doesn't want to give it to you, then I suggest you move on to the next female who will. Perhaps the wait will have been worth it however to have a solid LTR.

Please state the problem at heart. No more bull****. What is the core of your current dilemna? All will then be answered.

 

[xomel]

Treat jackasses like jackasses.

Originally posted by LikRetsam
When you are incapable of helping the thread starter,

Incapable of helping the thread starter? Are you helping him? No, I dont see you helping anyone, all I see you doing is trolling these boards.

Originally posted by LikRetsam
I suggest you don't post about something he doesn't care about to make up for the fact that you can't help him. It makes you look like an idiot.

He cares about getting poontang or else he wouldnt post about it. Im helping him, because I saw myself in this position a while ago and I'm telling him something very similar to what you told me when I was in this position. Your bashing your own advice. And as far as being an idiot, I dont see any threads being made that complain about my stupidity like you have those threads being made.

Originally posted by LikRetsam
Xomel, first you tell Supero Masculus he's read the bible 5 times over and then you tell him not to believe everything he's read in the bible... Did you realise he's been here longer than you and that *maybe* it's his own damn opinion?

Okay so your enrolled in private school and your a wopping 16 years of age and you still cant read (sorry for being personal but you were personal before I was) Nowhere in my post did I ever tell him not to believe the bible. Nore did I ever tell him what to believe at all. When I was refering to reading the bible five times, it was implied that simply reading the bible wont solve problems.

Originally posted by LikRetsam
Did you realise he's been here longer than you and that *maybe* it's his own damn opinion

Okay, hes been here 3 months longer than me, he knows more, he gets more poontang. Right. Im sure he developed that opinion on his own and he didnt just reword some post from the bible. Why not just link to the bible?

Originally posted by LikRetsam
Ohio, your name makes me think you're a smacktard.

I hope someday you get banned for doing shlt like that.

Originally posted by LikRetsam
If you want something and she doesn't want to give it to you, then I suggest you move on to the next female who will. Perhaps the wait will have been worth it however to have a solid LTR.

That would be like giving up. The question is, "Is she worth losing or not?" I once thought it was. It turned out it wasn't. The next 2 times i encountered that problem I did as I told you earlier to do. You dont even have to like her, its just about getting her to feel that you are perfect for her.

 

[LikRetsam]

xomel, thank you for taking the time to reply to my message completly off topic in a feeble attempt to conceal possible revealed insecurities.

Stop comparing yourselves to me. It just shows you feel inferior.

 

[xomel]

LikRetsam, thank you for taking the time to reply to my message completely offtopic in a feeble attempt to conceal possible revealed insecurities.

Thats like calling someone a butthead, it can go both ways.

 

[Biphoria]

Jesus xomel, you got destroyed now be silent. Look at how pathetic your last reply was. You know you're beat but you're going to deny it to the end.

Weak.

 

[Need-2-B-Pimpin]

Be strong willed and do what you feel is right. If you've got a great relationship and you're loving it, stick with it. I think that being afraid of the pain after attachment is a pretty pansy ass risk...do what you feel is right.

 

[ohiofutballa]

man i havent heard smacktard in awhile...its alright though i liked what you said after it....i asked for advice and everyone provided it to the best of your knowledge and experience...thats all someone can ask of you...

All in all i think that i was just scared of not living how movies have portrayed it. having regret that because of my relationship my teenage years, wouldnt turn out to be a huge party and sexfest like they make it seem. I think i was just scared to pass up on easy opportunities when a great, but hard one was right there.

Thanks for all the responses.

Ohiofutballa (the smacktard)

 

[AC/DC]

Damn Lik, did you really need to get all up in his ****?

And what's with you and being like "you are revealing insecurities"?

Everyone has em.... except for me, because I rule.

But really now, leave the kids alone.