"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Question about online dating.

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MoonieTX

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Hi Guys,

I thought I would take a leap onto Match.com to see what was out there. I have read the other messages concerning this site, and there really isn't that many good looking women. But, I thought what the hell and winked at a few 6s or 7s. I got one reply back from a maybe 7, can't make up my mind as 2 pics she looks good and one she doesn't. Anway, we have been e-mailing back and forth since yesterday afternoon. She is a bit young 23, I am 32. But she seems more mature, she has a good job, responsibilities etc.

So, I seem to be doing ok C&F and cracking jokes etc. I finally sent her a pic, because I am not going to waste my time if she doesn't like what I look like what is the point in continuing. The e-mail back she put her cell number and said call me for a chat if I would like.

How long should I wait before calling her? Do the same rules apply as if I got a number in a club or wherever.

Any advice would be cool.
Thanks.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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drZaius09

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The "rules" still apply, if that's what you want to call it. I prefer to call it "having a life" which has consequences that prevent you from calling immediately. But if you want to call them "rules," that's cool too.

As a side note, I'm *really* surprised that someone would respond to you without seeing a pic first. Your email game must be tight as hell-- congrats on that. I usually call two days later, but if they're getting at me through IM's every day, I might put it off a little longer.
 
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Well DrZ, I belive I have slight advantage. I am an english guy living in the States. So, that is normally enough of an opener for girls to start talking to me. That is my opening gambit, once I have got past that then game on, it is entirely down to me to DJ them.
 
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al77

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I agree, 1-2 days sounds good. I would not wait longre though, cuz she is constatly bombarded with emails and may lose interests in you due to competitin from other dudes if you wait too long.
 
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