On occasions I have found myself on dates with girls that looked better online than live, I guess that's something that most guys have experienced too. But my question is this : last time I had a date like this she was like a 6 to me so I wasn't even too bothered about teasing her, creating arousal, kino, all that stuff. Would you still proceed as usual just as practice for the next (hopefully) hotter girl that you go out with?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Question about dates
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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I still would.
But that's the thing though, you don't want to become too infatuated with her looks. Sure, you can acknowledge the fact she's attractive but understand that she still wipes her ass, shave, take showers, etc. Shes no different than anyone else.
This is good when you understand that because you're treating her like a normal person instead placing her on a pedestal. If she's not an AW, then she'll appreciate that.
But that's the thing though, you don't want to become too infatuated with her looks. Sure, you can acknowledge the fact she's attractive but understand that she still wipes her ass, shave, take showers, etc. Shes no different than anyone else.
This is good when you understand that because you're treating her like a normal person instead placing her on a pedestal. If she's not an AW, then she'll appreciate that.
What I meant was, when you are out on a date with a girl that isnt that attractive to you, not with one that is.
I never do dinners on first dates
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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I would proceed as normal. If not attracted once we meet, I will often use it as practice, kiss close, then never contact her again. It all starts with filtering better online. However, this will lead to many less matches online. I found that I was consistently going on dates with women that just weren't all that interesting, or had a feature that I couldn't stand to be around. I also realized I can show all women a good time and kiss close 90% of them. This means I was aiming wayyyy too low.
So, I have siginifcantly increased my standards on OLD (which isn't saying much) to only contact/swipe/like/message/etc. 8's and above... Now my return rate and mutual likes have gone wayyyyyy down, but I know I am at least attracted to these women. I was getting 2-3 dates a week, whereas now I get maybe 1 every two weeks.
I am not the greatest in looks, so I will not naturally draw the most beautiful women from OLD. However, I do converse well and am pretty witty, which is easier to put on display in person.
So, I have siginifcantly increased my standards on OLD (which isn't saying much) to only contact/swipe/like/message/etc. 8's and above... Now my return rate and mutual likes have gone wayyyyyy down, but I know I am at least attracted to these women. I was getting 2-3 dates a week, whereas now I get maybe 1 every two weeks.
I am not the greatest in looks, so I will not naturally draw the most beautiful women from OLD. However, I do converse well and am pretty witty, which is easier to put on display in person.