Question about Anti Dump

[LittleBigOne]

Recently i am using Anti Dumps machine (AD). I don't need to get girls, i want a girl who fits in my world. Since i have this mindset i feel much better.
While ago i had a date with a girl. Went pretty well. Tomorrow i am back from holiday and plan to call her for another date.
Now one part of AD i am curious about. AD is putting sex far back. He is doing a weeding out proces of girls who are not interested.
Well, i can keep up the proces by doing fun dates and keep a bit mystery but when is the time to escalate? AD basically says he let the woman wait untill she is torning his clothes of.
But is it not the guy who must lead? Strike when the iron is hot? Will she lose interest because the escalation doesn't happen soon? So infact i feel myself somewhere between finding out if the girl is worthy enough and my desire to bhone her.

 

[Zunder]

Recently i am using Anti Dumps machine (AD). I don't need to get girls, i want a girl who fits in my world. Since i have this mindset i feel much better.
While ago i had a date with a girl. Went pretty well. Tomorrow i am back from holiday and plan to call her for another date.
Now one part of AD i am curious about. AD is putting sex far back. He is doing a weeding out proces of girls who are not interested.
Well, i can keep up the proces by doing fun dates and keep a bit mystery but when is the time to escalate? AD basically says he let the woman wait untill she is torning his clothes of.
But is it not the guy who must lead? Strike when the iron is hot? Will she lose interest because the escalation doesn't happen soon? So infact i feel myself somewhere between finding out if the girl is worthy enough and my desire to bhone her.

I haven't read AntiDump yet - but he is apparently a sort of legend on here.
But - I'd be fvcking some other plate while "weeding" out this other one.

That gives you the best of both worlds.

I don't see how acting like some women do - i.e "holding out" serves much purpose. She will start thinking your are an inturn for the priesthood.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

It's best to step back from the individual girl, and focus on the condition you are working towards, which is a girl that meets your criteria to fit into your life. forget about what men are "supposed" to do. The reason for waiting for her to make the first move sexually is that it sets an incredibly strong frame that YOU ARE THE PRIZE.

If you make a move first, even though she'll likely go along willingly, you set the frame on some level that you are after her.

You need to train her (her being the qualified girl you end up with, not necessarily the one in question) from the very beginning that SHE is the one after YOU. Only after you've firmly established that frame should you begin to tap it at will.

Long term process, be patient.

You'll be much happier later on.

 

[Zunder]

It's best to step back from the individual girl, and focus on the condition you are working towards, which is a girl that meets your criteria to fit into your life. forget about what men are "supposed" to do. The reason for waiting for her to make the first move sexually is that it sets an incredibly strong frame that YOU ARE THE PRIZE.

If you make a move first, even though she'll likely go along willingly, you set the frame on some level that you are after her.

You need to train her (her being the qualified girl you end up with, not necessarily the one in question) from the very beginning that SHE is the one after YOU. Only after you've firmly established that frame should you begin to tap it at will.

Long term process, be patient.

You'll be much happier later on.

OK.
But, don't wear tight pants, because if she sees your hardon, the games up.

 

[Jitterbug]

AD basically says he let the woman wait untill she is torning his clothes of.

I think you misunderstood what he said. He's using that as an example to say that getting sex from her is not at the top of his agenda.

Keep in mind also that AntiDump at the time was a much older, divorced man on a forum full of young fellas. He was the "been there done that got the Tshirt" guy.

 

[penkitten]

just because he waited until they were literally "tearing his clothes off" does not mean that he was not leading them right where he wanted them.

 

[iqqi]

Reps to the girl^^^

 

[iqqi]

The deadliest and most potent seduction is the seduction of the mind.

 

[Mr. Me]

>> Will she lose interest because the escalation doesn't happen soon? >>

No. If you've created a frame where she's "chasing" you (instead of the typical guy-chases/rushes-girl frame), she can't consider dumping you while in that mind frame (unless you're giving her reasons/red flags to dump you). That would be the opposite of where their mind's at.

>> when is the time to escalate?>>

But you should be getting a good minute-or-two-on-the-lips kiss at the end of the dates in the meantime.

 

[Julian]

Do you like her? if you do then get on with the show and fucc her mind and body. Take her gotdamn soul and be with her bro. That is if you actually like her.

To me the weeding out process is not very long or strenuous. I go by the vibe and the feeling, play it by ear an just go with the flow...

 

[LittleBigOne]

Thankx so far for your replays!

Was planning to phone this particular girl to set up second date this weekend. However, i bumped into her in the supermarket. Little chat, and i asked her to meet up in the weekend. Well, she couldn't, had to work and on sunday she already had planned to visit a cultural event. 'But it's gonna be okay that second date, look forward to it', she said.

Don't know what Anti Dump says about such situation. Sign of lower interest that she doesn't cancel the cultural event so she can be with me?

About setting the frame of 'girl chases guy' it's difficult to me. When i don't ask her out nothing will happen so infact it feels i have to chase her. How do you set such frame????

 

[sodbuster]

Just casually mention other women you are hanging out with/dating/just recently kicked to the curb. Dispense this information in little bits and pieces-let her draw it out during conversation. Let her get the idea you are in demand,but don't come out and say it. Once her competitive juices get flowing,you win. YOu will still need to ask her out-women don't do that much,but it will be in a different context-she now knows this is her night/chance and if she's unavailable too many times-she doesn't get the prize.

 

[LittleBigOne]

During our first meeting she re scheduled her volunteerwork to see me. We had coffeedate, went very well but not really options to kino her. Fun was to qualify her.
For the second date she did not gave a counteroffer. She only said it's gonna be alright. Told her we are gonna do miniature golf, she loved that idea. But probably her interest level in me is tepid.

Calling her this monday to set the date is an idea. But i just don't wanne force/push it too much. Asking her twice in one week, how can i ever be 'the great catch' then?

 

[LittleBigOne]

You're over-gaming. Just ask her out again.

FYI, I think coffee dates are lame, for the reason you stated (not as many kino opportunities).

Night time drinks are always better. In fact, if a woman suggests coffee, it's a sign of low interest, in my opinion.

I am over- gaming her? Can you explain me what you mean by that, please. Because most of the time i believe my game is not good enough. That's why i like AD, he is not gaming, he tries to find interested girls.

And, not to forget, i was the one who suggested the coffeedate. It was a good way to qualify her and get a more proper impression of her. I believe it gave her also an oppertunity to start to know me a littlebit.