"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Pushing Your Comfort Zone

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So as well as approaching girls, I've decided that i want to start doing crazy things like once a week to push my comfort zone. The thing is I'm short on ideas. This is all i could think of-

Bungee Jumping
Running around with little/no clothes on haha (streaking)

I would appreciate any other ideas :D
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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first you need to just start out conversating with women...meet a new friend who is a female she doesn't neccessarily have to be the hottest girl youve ever seen but she should be attractive to your eye but not a huge interest...make sure its somewhere natural like (job, School, Neighborhood)

i've notice one of the biggest reason alot of guys fail at females is because they have no male to female communication going on in there lives...usually guys who are the most successful with women also have female friends as well as guy friends...when u have girl-friends all that sweaty palm and nervousness isn't that bad because you can basically anticipate how the convo will go due to the previous experience with you lady friends! and pushing your comfort zone won't feel so uncomfortable
 

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boy2spartan said:
first you need to just start out conversating with women...meet a new friend who is a female she doesn't neccessarily have to be the hottest girl youve ever seen but she should be attractive to your eye but not a huge interest...make sure its somewhere natural like (job, School, Neighborhood)

i've notice one of the biggest reason alot of guys fail at females is because they have no male to female communication going on in there lives...usually guys who are the most successful with women also have female friends as well as guy friends...when u have girl-friends all that sweaty palm and nervousness isn't that bad because you can basically anticipate how the convo will go due to the previous experience with you lady friends! and pushing your comfort zone won't feel so uncomfortable
yeah dude, i hear you. i actually have a few female friends. I'm actually not bad with women, I have good game, but I'm just shy. I'm trying to change this by approaching and putting myself in awkward social situations.

But i decided to make this process of changing myself fun, I also want to do some fun things to boost my confidence/ push my comfort zone. So I'm just looking for some crazy things to do, like the stuff i previously mentioned.

But yeah you're right about female friends, it really helps to improve your game. It seems when you tell yourself you're going to force yourself to stay friends with a girl, and not get attracted, a lot of times they fall for you, haha
 

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your just shy because you just have to learn to trust yourself...being fully aware of who you are makes your confidence level increase...my confidence was always high because i was always good at something....idk when u know your good you display confidence or some would like to say ****y...you should gravitate to what your good at also and display your skills to others...good recognition always help you feel if you can do this good you should be able to do other things good ya know!! dont think to hard about it if your naturally a shy person dont try to be something your not.
 

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your just shy because you just have to learn to trust yourself...being fully aware of who you are makes your confidence level increase...my confidence was always high because i was always good at something....idk when u know your good you display confidence or some would like to say ****y...you should gravitate to what your good at also and display your skills to others...good recognition always help you feel if you can do this good you should be able to do other things good ya know!! dont think to hard about it if your naturally a shy person dont try to be something your not.
Yeah, i guess that's true. That's why right now I'm learning how to play guitar. But in the mean time, I wanna do other things. You gotta understand that I'm very different, weird, whatever. I like to do crazy things.

As for the being something I'm not.. Well a few years ago I changed from shy to becoming social and getting a hot gf. When we went out though, I stopped talking to other people, hence going back into my hole. Now I'm trying to build my social skills again, and want to push that way farther, hence doing these crazy things to push my comfort zone.

My goal isn't really to pick up women, just to become extremely confident, become social, and very good with people.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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steve_erkle said:
Yeah, i guess that's true. That's why right now I'm learning how to play guitar. But in the mean time, I wanna do other things. You gotta understand that I'm very different, weird, whatever. I like to do crazy things.

As for the being something I'm not.. Well a few years ago I changed from shy to becoming social and getting a hot gf. When we went out though, I stopped talking to other people, hence going back into my hole. Now I'm trying to build my social skills again, and want to push that way farther, hence doing these crazy things to push my comfort zone.

My goal isn't really to pick up women, just to become extremely confident, become social, and very good with people.

dude that's great...like i said if your weird embrace that!! girls like guys who are sure of themeselves and your going the right route as to not even try to pick up women...focusing on yourself will eventually put you down the path of a don juan..
 

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dude that's great...like i said if your weird embrace that!! girls like guys who are sure of themeselves and your going the right route as to not even try to pick up women...focusing on yourself will eventually put you down the path of a don juan..
Shut up f@g..
jk hah, thanks for the kind words bro
 

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I'm in the same path.
But maybe I'm going to be pushing things even further.
I've decided to embarass and humiliate myself every night I go out.

My problem is, what i find embarassing is only a mild discomfort for people who are outgoing and enjoying life.
For example a guy who is loud, laugs at everything, and hugs everybody he meets might seem embarassing to those who are shy. But to those who are outgoing he is just having a good time and in fact want to join in with his fun.

This is why I have decided the best way for me to make material, long term changes is to go out there and do sh.it that will embarass me, humiliate me, and make me feel uncomfortable as hell.

Excuses only mean defeat.
 

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r0cky said:
I'm in the same path.
But maybe I'm going to be pushing things even further.
I've decided to embarass and humiliate myself every night I go out.

My problem is, what i find embarassing is only a mild discomfort for people who are outgoing and enjoying life.
For example a guy who is loud, laugs at everything, and hugs everybody he meets might seem embarassing to those who are shy. But to those who are outgoing he is just having a good time and in fact want to join in with his fun.

This is why I have decided the best way for me to make material, long term changes is to go out there and do sh.it that will embarass me, humiliate me, and make me feel uncomfortable as hell.

Excuses only mean defeat.

dude, thats awesome. soon being that guy will come naturally. great goal.

i still cant think of any crazy things i could do..
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Shut up f@g..
jk hah, thanks for the kind words bro
:nervous: yea just tryna help guy..dont be a AFC and a **** the combination only ends up in the man cream on the palm of your hand and in the tissue of your HALo 3 trashcan.

jk haha but yea its all good :cool:
 

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Try taking salsa lessons - takes you out of your confort zone (unless you're latino) AND is a lot of fun!
 
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dude, what you said reminds me of what I did earlier this summer. My friend and I spent an entire month doing crazy sh1t to gain complete social freedom. one of the things we did was walk down an entire crowded strip mall (right by the high school I recently graduated from) wearing nothing but nut hugging boxer briefs. it was pretty funny but I was so confident that people just looked at me weird and for the most part didn't say anything. lol. and no, i don't have any AA now whatsoever.
 

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dude, what you said reminds me of what I did earlier this summer. My friend and I spent an entire month doing crazy sh1t to gain complete social freedom. one of the things we did was walk down an entire crowded strip mall (right by the high school I recently graduated from) wearing nothing but nut hugging boxer briefs. it was pretty funny but I was so confident that people just looked at me weird and for the most part didn't say anything. lol. and no, i don't have any AA now whatsoever.
HAHAH dude thats fckin hilarious!!! i dont think i could pull that off yet. you sound like me though dude, we probably think alike. What other things did you do?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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we did a ton of other things. that same day, we both went to separate malls (we did everything alone to make it harder) dressed like wiggers/chiggers and went up to three groups of people. i then told them that we wanted them to hear our new rap song, and i rapped an entire song to them (he did "put on" by jeezy/kanye and i did "scarface" by lil wayne). i then recited a love letter that we wrote to ourselves to five random strangers/groups and we didn't tell them that it was from ourselves until the end, when we said "love, [our name].

another day we also did one where we went into separate malls and told three women/groups that we were pickup artists and searched online for tips to seduce women. afterwards we went into the middle of our respective malls and did a kung fu form (he did karate cuz he took that before) FULL POWER, with yells and everything.

another day, earlier in the program, i had to approach ten groups of women, tell them they're all beautiful, and invite them to coffee.

the first day of the last week of the program (we called it hell week) i first high fived three random strangers, then i jogged around the mall acting like i was exercising with panting and all that sh1t, and then after that i sat across from three different strangers/groups who intimidated me and stared directly into their eyes for 3 minutes straight without looking away.

very important is that all of these were done alone so that made it a million times harder

thats just some of what we did but after the program (which was all of july) i never experienced approach anxiety or any kind of social anxiety of any kind again. i've been in china for two weeks and i just went clubbing last night and even after two weeks of not interacting with anyone except my parents i still didn't feel an ounce of hesitation.

but yeah those are some of the harder drills i did , just to give u some ideas.
 

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that is awesome! that is definitely something i would try.. the part with staring at someone intimidating for three minutes seems insane haha.. where could i get a hold of this "program"?
 
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check your PM. but strangely enough, only one of them said anything to me. the other two actually got punked and avoided eye contact once they realized i was staring at them. the first one was a redneck looking dude who was by himself. i sat across from him at another table and just looked into his eyes for 3 min. he kept looking up nervously to see if i was still looking and i could tell he was getting uneasy. the second one was a ghetto black dude sitting in the food court with his friends. same reaction as the first guy. third one was a big asian mongolian warrior lookin mothafvcka who was with his family. after 2 and a half minutes he finally was like "whats up" and that was it. the thing about these drills is not only did they give me social freedom but they also made me realize that people are more intimidated than you than you are of them... and that if you are confident people will buy into your frame and won't question what you do, even if its weird as hell.
 
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