“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I have been lurking for awhile and am curious..has anyone here successfully pursued a married woman. Meaning you didn't meet them at the bar/club then find out the next morning that they were married/engaged but actively pursued them knowing they had a ring on their finger? I know alot will probably go with it is a waste of time with so many single women but I am intrigued by the idea as my belief system that I grew up with is being challenged. If you find out a woman you are interested in is married do you stop right there or do you see if you can seduce her? And perhaps I have a little itch to be the 'other' guy and not the 'nice' guy anymore.

Should it be avoided no matter what? More trouble than it's worth? Can it be fun and exciting? Is it morally wrong regardless of the situation? If married women are going to cheat anyway why can't it be with me? Any opinions or experiences to share?
 

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standard toaster said:
. If you find out a woman you are interested in is married do you stop right there or do you see if you can seduce her? And perhaps I have a little itch to be the 'other' guy and not the 'nice' guy anymore.
Just for the salke of the agrument, let's avoid the immorality of what you are proposing and simply look at what will probably happen to you.

Pursuing a married woman will create a triangle in which she is "the prize". You and her husband will be rivals for her attention and affection (at least she will think this and bask in it). That gives HER all the power, and woman usually abuse power which is conferred upon them.

Women have affairs to fill "the gaps". It will be your job to provide ONLY those elements which are missing from her existing life. You, in effect, will be her emotional servant, and you will have no control and no leadership.

Gawd help you if you develop 'feelings' for her because that makes you even more vulnerable to being used. Then you have to deal with the reality of falling for her -she is a liar and a cheater. Women who have affairs lie to BOTH men.. she tells different lies, but lots of them.

On top of all that, you will have the anxiety of wondering whether that mysterious car outside your house is being driven by her angry husband fingering his 9mm.
If you dump a married woman you are in a most dangerous and vulnerable place. She is very likely to exact revenge on you by faking up some BS about you stalking her and crying ,"poor me, he won't leave me alone " to her chump of a husband....
 
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I speak from experience here... just look at my thread ex comes back and tells me something awful. Only thing is I thought she was separated getting a divorce. I could only imagine pursuing her knowing she was not getting a divorce.

Best thing I can say is: Each to his own, but why bother with all the headaches that will arise from it? If you can stay clear, I certainly would!!!!

You may even fall for her and continue hearing lies and dealing with deceit. More than likely you will always be her number 2 guy. You will be the fun sex guy that is VP of her entertainment. Her husband will be the time winner and you will be left holding an empty with much built up resentment.

STAY AWAY!!!! I would not do it even for sex!
 

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It's very possible, probably just as easy as any other demographic of women.

However, to destroy peoples lives for the sake of immediate sexual pleasure is pretty ****ed up. Organized religion flurished to prevent **** like this from becoming commonplace.
 

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What about the trouble you can pick up with the spouse? If I walked into a room and found my GF/Wife being ****ed by another man Im not going to walk away. Out of anger, even if he never knew she had a BF/wife, I would probably knock ten shades of **** out of him. People are never going to be rational in that situation. For what? A piece of ass? Sex is not that hard to come by.

Married women **** around. Its not something we should be encouraging. Just because everyone else litters, it does not mean you should litter too.
 

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... but I am intrigued by the idea as my belief system that I grew up with is being challenged.
You were given those beliefs because they were/are wise. Listen.
 

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"I would probably knock ten shades of **** out of him."

In that situation the anger belongs with the girl for enabling it to happen.

So if you're going to beat anyone within an inch of their life make it her.

The guy is just doing what any guy would do.

Though if when you're kicking the sh!t out of the girl he tries to stop you then beat his ass too. :yes:

"Should it be avoided no matter what? More trouble than it's worth? Can it be fun and exciting?"

Jophil has given you the best answer.

"Is it morally wrong regardless of the situation?"

The only people you have a duty to act moral towards are friends and family assuming these people are important to you and you want to keep them in your life.

Women outside your immediate family and strangers do not count as women are amoral and guys you don't know would bone your wife just as you would bone theirs if they deemed her hot enough and they thought they could get away with it.

So don't trouble your mind with the morality of this scenario rather judge it as Jophil's post layed out and that is from a risk vs. reward perspective.

Is a particular piece of married pvssy worth it enough to you to nail despite the possible risks that may come with going through with it?
 

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KontrollerX said:
"I would probably knock ten shades of **** out of him."

In that situation the anger belongs with the girl for enabling it to happen.

So if you're going to beat anyone within an inch of their life make it her.

The guy is just doing what any guy would do.

Though if when you're kicking the sh!t out of the girl he tries to stop you then beat his ass too. :yes:
I agree with you, she's the one who needs her ass beat. But in the heat of the moment that animal brain takes over. There is no reason at the moment, there is only reaction. I've had several friends who have been there. They just see red and beat the crap out of the guy.

It's human nature...you catch your wife boffing another dude, the other dude has to pay with an asswhipping at best, dead at worst.

As for beating her ass...yah. That's generally not going to happen, if you actually stop to think, then you probably won't be beating any ass at all to be honest.

I do agree wholly with the risk vs. rewards. A dissatisfied married woman who is interested in you is just as easy to lay as any other woman who is highly interested in you.

Morality is just a nice way of saying, "we've already learned from experience that these sorts of behaviors don't tend to turn out well, it would be easier/better for you to just avoid doing that, but the choice is yours".
 

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jophil28 said:
Pursuing a married woman will create a triangle in which she is "the prize". You and her husband will be rivals for her attention and affection (at least she will think this and bask in it). That gives HER all the power, and woman usually abuse power which is conferred upon them.
I see where you are coming from with this but it got me to thinking...isn't this what we have to deal with anyways? Don't most women know/act like they already have all the power? If I was constantly hit on I would feel pretty good about myself too. I mean what is the purpose of 'peacocking' or having a unique pick up line? Isn't it to be different than all the other guys that approach her so she will notice us? Aren't we constantly competing with other men for womens attention anyway?
 

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I see where you are coming from with this but it got me to thinking...isn't this what we have to deal with anyways? Don't most women know/act like they already have all the power? If I was constantly hit on I would feel pretty good about myself too.
Women only have as much power as we confer on them. Self propelled or self actualizing woman are rare.
Women enjoy ' default power '...the power that flows to them from the vacuum created by men abdicating their dominance and leadership.

The ego bloat that women get from having 40 fawning chumps is NOT real power.That is perceived power and it is not real power because it achieves and produces nothing of real value.

The only legitimate power that we all have is the power to run our lives in a sensible and productive way.

Oh, and sane men never get in triangles.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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jophil28 said:
Just for the salke of the agrument, let's avoid the immorality of what you are proposing and simply look at what will probably happen to you.

Pursuing a married woman will create a triangle in which she is "the prize". You and her husband will be rivals for her attention and affection (at least she will think this and bask in it). That gives HER all the power, and woman usually abuse power which is conferred upon them.

Women have affairs to fill "the gaps". It will be your job to provide ONLY those elements which are missing from her existing life. You, in effect, will be her emotional servant, and you will have no control and no leadership.

Gawd help you if you develop 'feelings' for her because that makes you even more vulnerable to being used. Then you have to deal with the reality of falling for her -she is a liar and a cheater. Women who have affairs lie to BOTH men.. she tells different lies, but lots of them.

On top of all that, you will have the anxiety of wondering whether that mysterious car outside your house is being driven by her angry husband fingering his 9mm.
If you dump a married woman you are in a most dangerous and vulnerable place. She is very likely to exact revenge on you by faking up some BS about you stalking her and crying ,"poor me, he won't leave me alone " to her chump of a husband....

I disagree with alot of what you have to say here. I don't think me fuking a married woman makes her the prize. As a matter of fact I think its the opposite. I think that the guy is the prize reason being is she is going out of her way to see the guy. She has to sneak behind the husbands back to fuk the guy and she knows exactly what she is getting herself into.

As far as falling for a married woman that is just fuking dumb. A guy should only use a married woman for sex and only sex. You don't go out to dinner with married woman or date them. You just fuk them. Thats it and that is what they expect. If you fall for a married woman than you deserve to get shot by her husband.

If you dump a married woman I think in most cases its pretty much over. Most married woman I feel will cause you no harm.

I feel like a KBJ because quite frankly I have never fuked a married woman. There were quite a few married woman that wanted to fuk me. A married woman will make it very obvious if they want to fuk you. They pretty much made it very obvious to me. When I asked about there husbands they would say well we are going to seperate soon. Or he is an *******. Or he cheated on me. Or he is not affectionate. What probably happens in most of these situations is there husband gets tired of fuking the same old pu%%y and they are looking for something they dont' get at home.

I never crossed that line reason being it wasn't worth it to me. The married woman that came on to me were all older than me and were not worth the risk of me fuking them. I don't think its morally correct to fuk married woman but in the right circumstance (drunk, ons,) I could see myself fuking a married woman, but I am glad I never crossed that line and hope to never cross it.
 

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If she cheats on him,she will cheat on you,so she is no longer ltr material. If you feel like losing your life[chances are fair]or getting the beatdown of your life[better chance] for something with NO future-well there are no lifeguards in the gene pool.
 

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KontrollerX said:
"I would probably knock ten shades of **** out of him."

In that situation the anger belongs with the girl for enabling it to happen.

So if you're going to beat anyone within an inch of their life make it her.

The guy is just doing what any guy would do.
Bro, I agree with you 100%. The thing is, I dont think anyone is going to act rationally at that moment. I dont think I would. I would see red and just start kicking arse.
 

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I don't think me fuking a married woman makes her the prize. As a matter of fact I think its the opposite.
Two buyers and one seller...that confers power upon the seller.
And that is only one reason why you should never compete overtly for a woman, or get in a triangle with another guy as a rival..
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Dear Toaster,
What sort of Stupid bastard are you? In this country the going rate is $400 to get some mindless sadist to put someone in Hospital for a long while....So if you want to wonder out in your back yard and find some big Maori with a sense of social justice in breaking your body suddenly jumping over the fence to join you,go ahead.If Jophil gets passionate about something then listen to what he says,there are so many single Mums out there why do you have to create another?
 

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Scaramouche said:
Dear Toaster,
What sort of Stupid bastard are you? In this country the going rate is $400 to get some mindless sadist to put someone in Hospital for a long while....So if you want to wonder out in your back yard and find some big Maori with a sense of social justice in breaking your body suddenly jumping over the fence to join you,go ahead.If Jophil gets passionate about something then listen to what he says,there are so many single Mums out there why do you have to create another?
Just to clarify, since this issue keeps coming up, and is obviously one of the main cons. I am not currently interested in a woman that is spoken for or even know one that I am attracted to for that matter. My curiosity was simply peaked as I have come across discussion on the main forum regarding women that are already spoken for and was wondering if this practice was commonplace and if it was, what were the reasons for it.
 

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I see where you are coming from with this but it got me to thinking...isn't this what we have to deal with anyways? Don't most women know/act like they already have all the power? If I was constantly hit on I would feel pretty good about myself too. I mean what is the purpose of 'peacocking' or having a unique pick up line? Isn't it to be different than all the other guys that approach her so she will notice us? Aren't we constantly competing with other men for womens attention anyway?
No. When Man is at his best women are competing for HIS affection.

Further, women have no power other than what you confer to them. Living with this mindset that you must constantly be 'clever' enough to 'win' a woman's affections is not only a social fallacy but it's also woefully AFC.

Regarding married women, dont do it. Like Jophil said, even if you take the morality aspect out of it, practically it is just a poor use of your time...and the consequences can be disasterous.
 

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Any time you post something like this you will inevitably get the standard moralistic mumbo jumbo weakly supported by the "the husband is going to hunt down and murder you and feed your heart to his pit bulls" line.

If you think that most men wouldn't fukk YOUR wife given the chance, you are sadly mistaken. You can be the guy who "is above all that", thinking he is better than everyone else sticking to a "code of honor" (among other men who generally don't share the same code of morality, or if they do it is fake and easily compromised), or you can admit that you have desires and admit that most of this morality stuff is only meant to CONTROL you, and live your life accordingly.

Has anyone ever been physically harmed or even known someone who was physically harmed for hooking up with another man's woman? I don't. And I've fukked married women, women with b/f's, you name it. So have my friends.

Anyone?

Although I don't chase married women nor do I advocate chasing them, I firmly believe that all of this crap you hear trying to talk you out of doing it is, well, CRAP. If you want to actively pursue getting laid (or especially if you are looking for a partner) you would be much better off looking for a so called "single" woman (although most desirable women are in SOME form of a relationship 95% of the time). If the opportunity crossed your path and you're in the mood, you're a fool to pass it up based upon some lame ass "man code" or an irrational fear that you're gonna get murdered.

The only people you owe loyalty to in regards to this are friends and family. Otherwise it's every man for himself.

Oh yea....and there's nothing more AFC than getting bent out of shape about some b!tch stepping out on you, especially when you take it out on the dude.
 

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I say if you find your wife in bed with another dude, beat him because dudes lie too; drag her by her down the stairs by her hair; slap the desk worker that knew she was married when your wife used your credit card; burn down the hotel; and sit at home praying that the first policeman who busts in the door comes when you've calmed down for his sake.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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